Not just talking ammo. I could travel to Jita with no fittings at all. I could travel all the way from Jita to Amarr with zero fittings and no need to even care how many 0.5 systems I went through…and do it all on autopilot while I watch Netflix. That is the highsec you are going to end up with. With zero ganking there’s zero need for anyone to even be at their keyboard ! How exciting !
My God…so I’ve gleaned more about Eve in less than a year than you have in 15 !
People could safely travel around highsec with zero fittings and the markets would not be impacted ?? Where are all those shield extenders, damage control, afterburners, turrets, rigs, yada, yada, yada now going to be bought…with zero risk in highsec, and your noobs being too scared to buy them in lowsec as those gankers you kicked out of highsec are now gate camping every 0.4 gate in revenge ? Huh ?
I’ve done loads more than that, I ganked with miniluv for a while and I quite openly solo ganked. I also have a 20 man fleet of multibox gankers. I like how you think that matters of public record are a gotcha.
It’s not hypocrisy to engage in a playstyle and form a conclusion that it’s not good for the game. This character was in a nullsec alliance and I still have traders in multiple nullsec alliances yet I think nullsec alliances are hugely detrimental to the game and are in dire need of rebalancing.
Again, so what? So travel fits don’t need modules. Big whoop. What percentage of modules sold on the market do you realistially believe are bought purely for travelling in highsec. I’ll give you a hint, there will be a lot of leading zeros after that decimal point.
Again, so what? People engage in all sorts of game activities while AFK and travelling around highsec is just one of those things. Personally I think travel times are a massive waste of time that could be better spent in active activities so anything that makes them less of a chore is good in my book.
This is still incorrect. Repetition will not make it a fact.
Again that’s nonsense. With zero highsec ganking, noobs would have no need to chose between types of barge for mining. They can just choose whatever one gives most yield. The others become irrelevant in highsec…nobody would want or need to buy them. With zero need for tank, the market for tank modules dies out in highsec. The knock on effect of zero ganking would be huge, with lots of modules and ships no longer being in demand. With zero risk in highsec hauling, people would just buy all the biggest hauling ships…with zero risk of ever losing them. That in turn would destroy the market for smaller and more expendable haulers.
It is utterly dishonest to pretend that all that would be affected is ammo.
A change that you want simply to hang on to a few percent of noobs who would probably leave anyway ends up affecting the entire nature of highsec. And I find it unbelievable that you don’t care that highsec would simply end up full of AFK-ers getting no ship loss experience at all and barely even playing the game. Your highsec is gonna be an incredibly boring place that will likely make more people leave than ganking could ever do.
I don’t think you really care about noobs at all. Otherwise you would not want to inflict on them the most boring, unimaginative, AFK filled, zero risk, carebear highsec imaginable.
Depends on how safe. As long as suspect baiting and stealing is still an option…
Btw worst case you can stir up drama in local. If anyone bothers to read it (or if there is anyone else than a bunch of bots around) that is.
Though even if they make hisec safe space I wonder what the prophesized FW update will bring, maybe it will be good enough to spend time on that instead. I doubt it but we’ll see anyway what… if anything meaningful they will implement.
I have the best wishes for Beth to make a cool new RPG worth playing or even being outstanding… but maybe am too cynical as I rather expect it to be mediocre at best. But will see maybe they’ve learned their lessons and under MS ownership they can actually make a good game with not much bugs, fun gameplay and hopefully without some live service garbage.
Edit: Btw what other games you play that you refer to in your post?
In reality it’s not even true as they’d pick between high yield and high cargo.
One line potentially becomes irrelevant in highsec, but amusingly right now two lines are mostly irrelevant in highsec and you don’t have a problem with that. Again though, highsec purchases for highsec players are not a massive market so the overall impact on the economy would be low.
This is simply not true. I don’t even know how you could even think this is true. You are aware that most of the game is completely unrelated to highsec ganking, right? People fit ships for countless other purposes and fly in whole areas of space that aren’t even highsec.
I love how you’re still trying to push this economic angle. I guarantee if there’s anything you’re never going to understand in greater depth than me it’s the markets
I didn’t, I responded to your ludicrous claim that:
That’s an absolutely insane claim that has zero basis in reality. All that claim does is highlight just how little you understand anything about the markets.
Why? That’s mostly what it is now. I’m totally happy for people to come and pay CCP for omega subs so they can AFK in highsec for ridiculously low rewards.
But they can just go outside of highsec. If you don’t like safe space, don’t fly in highsec. It’s strange to me that you think the ability for people to not be killed while shooting lasers at rocks will suddenly mean you can’t go have fun elsewhere.
Again, this is your opinion and it’s based on what appears to be the most flawed understanding of game mechanics I’ve ever seen. I’ve legitimately seen people who have never played EVE yet have a better understanding of EVEs mechanics than you do.
Even if it’s 100% safe in terms of combat you can already play games with resources by using high waste crystals. They need to make high waste options for ice though, that’d be hilarious.
Sigh. And you think all those gankers are just going to go away ? No, they’ll be targetting all your precious noobs at 0.4 gate camps. I think I may even join them.
And that is exactly it you stupid ganker! We want to play the game with 0 player input. We want to mine and haul stuff when we are in school or work and well basically whole day actually while we are doing more important stuff or playing other games.
I see that Codename_Razorback is selling that character. I guess we’ll not see him in an anti-ganking thread again (Bitter-Vet for Sale).
It’s quite sad to have 190m+ skillpoints (a 2003 character) and to allow yourself to become so negatively affected by what is, after all, a piece of entertainment.
So when CCP bans ganking from Highsec, as you want, is there any reason for players to use anything less than an ORE strip miner Hulk, expanded freighter on AFK autopilot, or officer mod Marauder?
If anyone bothers to read it (or if there is anyone else than a bunch of bots around) that is. 
