By that logic though it means that there can never be any intent.
Ironic considering we’re talking about people who create an out of game blog to share them deliberately goading other players into outrage. It doesn’t stop there, if it’s just a game why do they also target streamers and record their live reactions to their griefing while encouraging their fanatics to go on twitch and harass the streamed in their chat?
The “it’s a game” angle would only work if the gankers were themselves remaining within the confines of the game, but they aren’t.
Or we could stay with reality and point out that CCP is incredibly hesitant to act on anything that occurs on third party platforms.
You don’t know the story, and I’m certainly not going to tell it you. James needed no-one’s help to make money. He had green fingers where that was concerned, and Aiko’s the same - folk just can’t stop depositing ISK in that account of hers!
You are right, Lucas, there were indeed a few blogposts titled ‘Tears of the Day’ on Minerbumping, in 2012 - (I’ll go back and have a good chortle when I’m done here!).
There were 5 such posts in August and 4 in September of that year (James never continued it) - out of a total of 113 total posts for the 2 months.
But yes, you were right. (See? It’s easily done - and I gained from the experience!).
Nope, that would make you fail your exam for logic. You cannot draw conclusions from an empty box other than it’s empty.
From logic to the math chapter on hyperboles ? Only in this thread.
The deliberate goal is to extort ISK, which is good business, not tears because those don’t have ISK value. The violence following a refusal to pay the ISK is bad business, because it drives up the working costs of the operation (that’s the rp element in play).
In EvE there are consequences to bad behaviour. Producing salt and tears, or worse, may land you on a blog. That’s still better than landing yourself on a ticket for (alleged) griefing and threatening, no ?
As to streamers, almost all of them know how to take precautions against ganking and are not interfered with at all (Merk, Pando, Brisc, BjornBee, Marquee, EVElog, to name a few). They are not above the rest of EvE. One guy got cocky in bloody Caldari hisec…, and was (only) bumped last week. Big deal eh ? Major crime against humanity, a sign of the utmost toxicity. Btw, fanatics do not need any encouragement. Then again, overreactions beget more reactions. Last week’s incident had a clear starting point.
Either he has griefed new players and his guilt over doing such a shitty thing is making him project his motives for ganking onto other people. Thereby eroding his position as someone who campaigns for ganking to be removed.
Or
He lied and is actively griefing gankers currently by making ■■■■ up to smear them in the forums outside of the game.
Most antigankers are failed griefers, and they try to “grief the griefers” because they are salty someone else is better at the game. This is certainly the case with Lucas, who tried ganking but flunked out of ganker training.
Except that your claim is that because people can shoot other people in game their intent can’t be measured, even though we can clearly see they are “harvesting tears”.
Except that in most cases there is no attempt to extort ISK.
It’s not one guy though, there are many such instances.
Seriously guy, there’s no way we can have anything close to a reasonable discussion if you’re going to be disingenuous at every turn.
To some extent that current gankers still actively grief new players, yes I did. I didn’t actually drag anyone in to chats or send mails but I engaged in some of the ganking, and after seeing the interactions of other gankers doing it I realised just a repulsive it was. That’s what hanging out with goons gets you.
That’s OK, I have no real interest in waiting around to see what you can make up anyway.
