Gosh, all I ever wanted was validation from some random ganker.
Unsurprisingly I don’t actually care what you doubt.
That’s why you post here daily?
People who don’t care are not posting here.
You obviously care.
Entertainment. Nice cherrypicked quote though.
Not often you see trolls actually admit to it
It makes the point very well indeed. Any use of DPS in Eve could be defined as griefing. It’s not exactly a nice thing to do…to warp scram someone and deprive them of their ship, whether it is in highsec or lowsec or null. So how do you define the ‘motivation’ of lowsec gate campers differently to that of highsec gankers just because one gets blapped by Concord and the other doesn’t ??
In both cases they want a kill…and let’s face it…lowsec is actually even more a case of big ‘bullies’ ganging up and blapping tiny little ships. There’s nothing stopping gate campers blapping absolutely anything that comes through…they don’t even have to worry about working out EHP…even blap shuttles that gankers in highsec would not waste time on. There’s no way you’d find 4 Tornadoes taking on a Tristan in highsec…yet it happens all the time at gate camps.
So howcome highsec gankers are griefer bullies and lowsec gate campers ( whom you have never once mentioned ) are not ?
You are by far the most disingenuous person in these forums.
No it doesn’t.
CCP already have in their ToS that you are not allowed to use “offensive language”. You could similarly declare any language “offensive”. In reality though context matters.
LOL. I get why you’re trying to set it up this way. But sorry bruv. EVE is a sandbox, and I love all the sand 
As a single account holder, ganking is unfeasible in the long term in terms of profitability. Now if I multi-boxed, I’d gank all the time LOL.
What’s funny is as you yourself multi-box, you’ve forgotten the constraints and the advantages of only having one account.
Why wouldn’t I gank all the time? Because I like the sand bruv But I get why you’re trying to force this narrative. What’s funny is considering I pay for my account, I get to decide what’s fun and what I do LOL.
I don’t think so bruv. Its pretty obvious you at one point loved EVE and now you hate it. So when you see others enjoying what you once loved, it makes you ree endlessly and want to destroy their enjoyment of the game.
Prove it
He won’t cause he can’t LOL.
Uh. One quick look at her zkill shows she isn’t a ganker LOL. Why do you assume without even doing due diligence?
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So you don’t think 4 Tornadoes blapping a puny Tristan at a lowsec gate camp is ‘bullying’ ?
Should posts from people like Lucas who don’t actually play the game get moved to the fiction section of the forum, since they’re essentially RPing?
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I wish. I really am a proponent of only Omega accounts being able to post on here LOL.
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Not really, you just have a ganking character and a money making character and you make cash through mostly passive endeavours. Hell, if that’s too tough I’m sure @Aiko_Danuja would bankroll your ganking if you wanted to do it all day every day.
Do I multibox or do I not play? Make up your mind.
I’m not forcing any narrative, I’m just poiting out the reaity that the reason people don’t all gank is that while it’s easy it’s insanely boring for any normal person. You’re the threashing around trying to come up with reasons.
I definitely don’t hate it. It’s certainly not as good as it used to be and the quality of the community members has dropped, but no, your fantasy that I’m somehow jealous is just that, a fantasy.
Why? What do I gain out of jumping through hoops to prove to you that I play?
So you’re saying you don’t think alts exist? Weird take.
I don’t think it’s inherently griefing, no. I think if they did that then bombarded him with mails and brought him into a channel filled with all their mates to mock them until they raged out then it would be.
I’d be totally fine with that. In fact if you raise that as a suggestion I will absolutely support it.
Alternatively people could just laugh it off…
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Sure, but again, not everyone will. You seem to be unable to comprehend that not everyone will think and feel like you do.
There are people with mental health issues who may not be able to deal with it for example. This game is also available to kids, so not everyone is even mature enough to deal with targeted psychological harassment.
And again I have to point out that when I had an opinion you didn’t agree with you flew off the handle and started lobbing insults, so this idea that you just “laugh it off” seems completely absurd.
The whole point of ganking peeps is the loot scooping LOL.
Again, I have a single account. I’m not gonna waste time training up an alt and lose time on Gix LOL.
So you deny multi-boxing in the past? So you were lying about the ganker accounts right?
Not really ROFL. Or maybe yennoe, people play the game how they want? You realize people see right thru this smokescreen right? Its cute ROFL.
Oh no sir. You def don’t enjoy it at all anymore. And yes, you are jealous of their success. Moreover, you are jealous of their joy of the game.
Why else would you be out here trying to grief people’s playstyles?
Credibility my guy
What proof do you have her alleged alt is a ganker? ROFL. Yennoe, I know someone else who always accuses people of being gankers with no proof simply for disagreeing with him. Huh. Weird that
You wouldn’t be able to post then my guy
Not the gankers problem LOL.
If they can’t deal, don’t play. Its very simple. There are much more relaxing games out there. Stardew for example
Vidya games are optional my guy, they can opt out at any time
You know this is just the thing. CCP wants to eat its cake and have it too. They misadvertise the game, create a false impression and everyone involved suffer for it, both the gankers and the ones being ganked or PvPers in general and those who expect safety in hisec and whatnot.
Like how they create the impression this game should be allowed to be played by kids while it clearly has adult themes and an environment not necessarily suitable for them and by this create situations which just harm the game and its players in general by both sides of an encounter being lied to and frustrated.
If the game was adult rated as it should be this should not be the case and any adult crying over lost space pixels would be just laughed at by everyone and if they had mental health issues they should have been taken care of by their loved ones and not let to play a game that harms them.
This could be said about kids too but obviously it is not a mental health issue just them being immature due to their age and parents can hide behind the excuse of the age rating and rightfully blame the game and CCP for not being as advertised.
Of course CCP and the rating board hides behind the excuse of online interactions are not rated (ignoring the themes themselves) but everyone can see that is just a BS excuse. The game should be adults only and done.
Also there is the case of advertising the game as suitable for casual players and not clearly stating it is an all and everywhere PvP game where getting your stuff blown up is rather to be expected. Making this prominent in their ads and promo material like in the past instead of the current approach.
Of course these and other such examples just show how disingenuous CCP is and is part of the problem out of greed and wanting all the players they can get even if by lies instead of being honest and maybe earn less, though I personally think they would gain more people that way.
So really the one to blame for all this is CCP first and foremost, even if some players might also be responsible (am not here to debate that point and which players and how much are responsible am here to point out CCP as a serious reason for the issues).
Btw I personally don’t care about this thread and the eons old debate beyond munching some popcorn while casually scrolling through the posts every now and then. There is a reason this trash bin exists in the first place.
Though funny thing the same was to be said about the afk cloaky thread and eventually CCP actually did something about that one though your mileage may vary whether you consider it a proper solution or not.
However it shows that complaining long enough might make CCP change their stance even if just somewhat and not entirely. So I guess despite I see this fruitless in the end it might eventually produce some results if enough people keep on complaining to CCP… who knows.
Sadly I think Lucas’s crying will eventually gain traction with CCP.
They’ll go the same route as UO one day likely sadly.
But at least we’ll always have memories of when EVE was EVE
Then you were doing it wrong.
Don’t then, get a few injectors or MCT.
I don’t deny multiboxing even now. Running a 20 man mining fleet hoovering up all that ore while I play lawn mowing simulator.
Thanks for informing me of my own views, I was unaware.
I’m putting my opinion forward on what would be positive changes for the overall longevity of the game.
What proof do you have its not?
You sure about that?
It’s not that simple, since the survival of the game relies on fewer people leaving going forwards. So saying “just leave then” isn’t really helpful.
I’m not sure that’s entirely true though, because I’ve never seen actual advertisements that advertise that new players will get targeted by bored veterans or that they’ll get dragged into channels to by psychologically manipulated.
Sheesh. Empathy not your thing, huh?
Why? I fly all over and rarely lose stuff. You only need to expect that if you are pretty new because you’ll deliberately be targeted by the bottom of the barrel combat pilots. Most combat PvP in the game you have to somewhat aim to engage in.
I don;t think it’ll make a jot of difference either way. I think that a combination of their internal data on retention, the success rate of the new China server and the pattern of people paying cash for assets if those assets are immediately at risk, these are the factors that will matter.
Wut. How would it be wrong? That’s how you make the monies LOL.
Unless of course you were only doing it for the griefing huh? Figures
Why? So now you support your “P2W”? Interesting
That is the definition of the ick and boomer right there my guy
ROFL, you inform people of their own views all the time my guy.
LOL. Its very far from that. You don’t care about EVE my guy. Its very obvious
My guy, you made the claim first. That onus is on you. I await you proving her alleged alt is a ganker
Remember, you always argue in good faith right? So you must know you made the claim first, thereby the onus of proof is on you, right?
Yep
If they aren’t equipped to play the game, yes they should leave. They will do far more harm by staying and crying to attempt to get the game changed.
They should realize what game they chose to play LOL.
Bro you got zero empathy LOL. Why you fronting?
Because EVE is an open world PvP game where you consent to PvP as soon as you undock
But I thought ganking was a huge problem? If there is no counterplay, how do you beat the gankers then?
If they are the bottom of the barrel, how are they succeeding?
You mean bots that get paid to play
I was talking in general. If it is proven someone deliberately tries to harass another player that is already covered by the EULA. The constant debate mostly seems about the grey area or middle ground or the part where it is based on your view what is griefing and what the intent is for the pew pew.
But a proper age rating would cover the ambiguity of those gray areas as well as an adult is expected to be having an adult mindset instead of behaving like a child and if they do nobody cares and rightfully so. However despite being wrong doing so parents, the kids themselves, CCP and the rating board all hide behind excuses and feel convinced the issue is not them and based on the age rating and how EVE is presented currently they have an argument.
(So I was not talking about edge cases and the extreme end of the spectrum.)
Didn’t say I feel no empathy but CCP nor players can’t evaluate the health status of each player and decide if they are fit for what’s to come. Basically that is why age rating is a thing (in theory) so people (based on their age and thus expected maturity level) would not be put up with things they might not be able to handle.
It is the parents’ responsibility to take care of their kids as it is expected the kids themselves might be unable to do so and the age rating tells parents what to expect from a game to make that decision. If they are responsible parents they act accordingly. But if the game contains stuff beyond the age rating (even the online interactions) then clearly they will just claim they were lied to and the gam provides something they rightfully did not expect.
In case of adults they should act responsibly and restrain themselves if needed. Of course someone with mental health issues might not be able to do this on their own, thus someone has to do it for them. CCP nor the players can’t be expected to do this as most probably they don’t know about it in the first place and unreasonable to expect them to proactively monitor and assess the mental health of someone might not even willingly tell about it in the first place. Thus it is the loved ones of such people that should take care of them, that’s just the reality of the situation and if they have nobody to take care then unfortunately they are in a bad place.
Having empathy for them doesn’t change the fact that someone should take care of them as they probably can’t on their own and it is unreasonable to expect CCP or other players to do it for them.
Of course this still doesn’t mean harassment is okay or exploiting someone’s mental health issue if they know about it. But something unbearable for someone like that might be totally normal or at least bearable for an average person. And again targeted harassment even against average people should not be allowed and is currently already is against the EULA so if reported CCP should act upon it (although the damage by then is already done I guess).
So it was not a lack of compassion just the reality of the situation what I wrote there.