Nerf Ganking Megathread

[Wadiest_Yong]

@Lucas_Kell

they allow you to move my pieces then claim I did it

I did no such thing, how dare you

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

@Ferdiad_Silver

Unless you are a mind reader then saying you disagree doesn’t put making claims about other peoples motives in the realms of a fact.

I disagree.

So this is what it comes down to. An inability to even admit when you are caught passing off opinions as facts to further your agenda… and you feel you should be the one casting judgement on other peoples agendas. A known griefer both in game and apparently in the forums.

[Sasha_Nemtsov]

I was shocked to read Lucas’ confession to his having griefed new players.

Sigh…

I hope he’ll go back and delete that post. I’m quite upset, emotional…

[Wadiest_Yong]

Perhaps there’s a secret channel where gankers (and stealth bomber pilots) are met with empathy after being griefed on the forums.
And if there isn’t, perhaps there should be one, lol.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

You mean “why was I griefed” well you clearly forgot to wear your tin foil helmet which enabled another player to read your mind and know better than you what your motives were.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ferdiad_Silver

I don’t think spamming the forums is griefing. Or we’d have to beat Gix with the naughty bat. What is griefing is making up lies to try and smear perfectly honest gankers with his own motives. That smacks of harassment to me.

I also don’t make up crazy lies or try to girlboss gas light out of situations :d

@Lucas_Kell

I’ve pointed out facts.

Actually you stated opinions

@Lucas_Kell

My motive was never to grief and it was the attempts to get me to cross that line that made me takes a serious look at the state of ganking.

So if this line of reasoning excuses you, then since Aiko’s motivation isn’t griefing as well, isn’t she cleared of any accusations as well?

@Ferdiad_Silver

However when viewed through the lens of your agenda to get ganking removed it’s more likely the smear campaign.

You got him dead to rights. Expect more semantics and gas lighting

@Lucas_Kell

Nope, gankers dispute facts all the time.

Actually its the opinions that get disputed

@Lucas_Kell

No I haven’t. If you shoot someone and they get outraged, that’s not grief. If you send them a genuine RP email, that’s not grief. If you send them a carefully constructed communication or drag them into a chat to poke them into being angry so you and your creepy mates can jerk off over their responses, that’s griefing. I know you’re smart enough to understand this hence my statement that you’re being disingenuous.

I like how the rage starts to slip out as you get cornered. It’s amusing

@Lucas_Kell

I disagree.

You can disagree all you want. Doesn’t mean he isn’t right LOL.

@Ferdiad_Silver

So this is what it comes down to. An inability to even admit when you are caught passing off opinions as facts to further your agenda… and you feel you should be the one casting judgement on other peoples agendas. A known griefer both in game and apparently in the forums.

Yesm sir. As I keep telling you, he isn’t a rational person. He literally cannot admit when he is wrong or even when people have salient points.

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Lucas_Kell

If you send them a genuine RP email, that’s not grief.

How can we recognize a genuine RP email versus a griefer email?

[Wadiest_Yong]

Wearing a tinfoil hat is not a god given obligation

[Sasha_Nemtsov]

I don’t know about the player behind ‘Lucas Kell’, but the character comes across as weak.

Just compare their frenzied posting on this Forum with the calm assurance of Aiko, Wadiest, Sasha, others.

The player behind ‘Lucas’ is probably just role-playing being a belligerent but ineffectual baddie.

Keep it up, Lucas!

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Gix_Firebrand

@Ferdiad_Silver

I don’t think spamming the forums is griefing. Or we’d have to beat Gix with the naughty bat. What is griefing is making up lies to try and smear perfectly honest gankers with his own motives. That smacks of harassment to me.

I also don’t make up crazy lies or try to girlboss gas light out of situations :d

Yes but you do say daft nonsensicle stuff like girlboss, roflstomp and so on. Reading your posts is a little like trying to make sense of an eight year old that drank a gallon of sunny D sometimes.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Wadiest_Yong

Wearing a tinfoil hat is not a god given obligation

Neither is using D-Scan. But you fail to do one you get ganked, you fail to do the other you get griefed in the forums.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ferdiad_Silver

Yes but you do say daft nonsensicle stuff like girlboss, roflstomp and so on. Reading your posts is a little like trying to make sense of an eight year old that drank a gallon of sunny D sometimes.

First of all, I’m attempting to educate his boomer self on the parlance of the day.

EVE def needs more Gen Z slang.

Secondly, ROFLstomping will be making a comeback.

I am bound and determined to bring back the early Internet smack talk.

I’m also bringing back jabroni.

I am perfectly capable of rational and sensible posts. You’ll see them sometimes.

However, why deny myself the pleasure of farming a dude who lies about vidya games

[Wadiest_Yong]

I’ve said so before. I admire parts of Lucas’ EvE gameplay, he does stuff ingame I can’t. He knows that that is my opinion of him, because I told him. As to his forum combat, he puts up a good fight, not always fair, but with stamina at the very least. I consider him a good opponent on the forums, once I got past the smoke screen he pulls up - which took me some time, yes He has my respect for how he fights on the forum, regardless of his opinion of me.
It’s not personal, it’s EvE metagaming. After all, CCP holds all the wires of us little puppets.

And we give each other the occasional “like”, to prove the point.

[Lucas_Kell]

@Wadiest_Yong

You disagree you’re not a mind reader ?

Sure.

@Wadiest_Yong

I did no such thing, how dare you

@Ferdiad_Silver

So this is what it comes down to.

If you say so. Honestly mate I’m barely reading your responses. Between you wildly misrepresenting and me being distracted by a low fuel challenge on lawn mowing simulator while my newbie fleet mines AFK, reading your posts kinda seems low priority.

Don’t get me wrong, I read them marginally more than whatever Gix posts, but only marginally.

@Sasha_Nemtsov

I don’t know about the player behind ‘Lucas Kell’, but the character comes across as weak.

Zinger!

@Sasha_Nemtsov

Just compare their frenzied posting on this Forum with the calm assurance of Aiko, Wadiest, Sasha, others.

Naming yourself in the third person is weird. But seriously, in what way is my posting “frenzied”? I’m calm, I’m mostly responding on point to relevant posts and I’m not posting at a particularly rapid rate. Just scroll through and look at how many direct ad hominems, misrepresentations and false accusations have been lobbed at me though and then let me know how exactly I’m the frenzied one here.

@Gix_Firebrand

his boomer

Definitely not a boomer, just sayin’

@Gix_Firebrand

EVE def needs more Gen Z slang.

That right there is blasphemy. You take it back!

Oh and between those two comments you should be able to figure out what generation I am so you can stop guessing.

[Wadiest_Yong]

@Gix_Firebrand

EVE def needs more

“oomph” or was it “prffffzzz” ? I forgot, and it’s too late to look up what the dev said.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Lucas_Kell

If you say so. Honestly mate I’m barely reading your responses. Between you wildly misrepresenting and me being distracted by a low fuel challenge on lawn mowing simulator while my newbie fleet mines AFK, reading your posts kinda seems low priority.

Don’t get me wrong, I read them marginally more than whatever Gix posts, but only marginally.

Yet you nearly always find the time to respond…

I’m glad you’ve found lawnmower simulator though. Zero opportunity for you to grief newbros out of the game. A much healthier pastime for you.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Lucas_Kell

I’m calm

LOL. So thats why you mass deleted posts where you made wild disparaging remarks that made you look cray cray?

@Lucas_Kell

Just scroll through and look at how many direct ad hominems, misrepresentations and false accusations have been lobbed at me though and then let me know how exactly I’m the frenzied one here

I mean we’d scroll through yours but you deleted them

Sounds like someone is sensitive

@Lucas_Kell

Definitely not a boomer, just sayin’

My youth, you are definitely a boomer.

@Lucas_Kell

Oh and between those two comments you should be able to figure out what generation I am so you can stop guessing.

Don’t have to guess. Your behavior screams boomer LOL.

[Ferdiad_Silver]

@Gix_Firebrand

First of all, I’m attempting to educate his boomer self on the parlance of the day.

Based on the boomers I know, if he was to play EVE he’d have zero sympathy for newbros. Something something, pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

@Gix_Firebrand

EVE def needs more Gen Z slang.

I’m not sure bringing back Jabroni and roflstomp is as GenZ as you think it is.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ferdiad_Silver

Based on the boomers I know, if he was to play EVE he’d have zero sympathy for newbros. Something something, pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

He doesn’t have any sympathy for newbros LOL.

You yourself pointed out that fact. Its all sophistry.

I suspect its all some sort of elaborate ego thing for him.

@Ferdiad_Silver

I’m not sure bringing back Jabroni and roflstomp is as GenZ as you think it is.

Oh it isn’t, His girlboss gas lightin tho

I’m sure he doesn’t even know what has the juice without Google man.

[Sasha_Nemtsov]

@Lucas_Kell

lawn mowing simulator

To each his own.

I have Trainz Railroad Simulator. I fire it up whenever I just want to drive trains!

You can’t take your mind completely off it, because of signals, freight stops, passengers on/off, etc.

You definitely cannot gank AFK!