Nerf Ganking Megathread

The closest thing I play to a simulated job is Stardew.

Thats an interesting point. So many playstyles are AFK but ganking is impossible to AFK. Maybe it needs a buff to balance that out?

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Well, this thread has been a-hummin’ tonight. But all gross things must come to an end.

It’s 00.56 here in the UK, and Sasha’s parked in station while his handler is off to bed.

Goodnight All!

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Yeah but effort varies.

I’m griefing the **** out of these blades of grass though.

That didn’t happen though. I deleted something like 8 post after you and your mates mass flagged them and I couldn’t be bothered to get them unhidden.

I mean, Gix kinda has a point. I don’t have particular sympathy for newbros. I oppose griefing of anyone, but the main reason I want the ganking of new players to stop is for improvements to player retention so the game has a shot at lasting longer before PA pulls the plug.

Yeah I quite like a lot of simulator games. I mainly do a lot of trophy/achievement hunting. Got the platinum in Bee Simulator a short while back :rofl: :rofl: Now there’s a game.

This is true. The one positive it has over the abomination that is mining.

Mate, Stardew is the nuts. I love that game. I’ve got designs from when where I was planning to make a Harvest Moon clone then Stardew came out and saved me the trouble.

Weaaaaak! The Queen died, stay up in tribute.

Though I too am in the UK and will likely retire soon too.
Night mate.

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For me it is all about the music. That’s what makes it for me.

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Yeah it’s pretty good. It’s on spotify so you can listen to it there too :smiley:

ROFL. Sure buddy. Ok :smiley:

I’ve never reported a post either :smiley: I don’t believe in blocking nor reporting.

Sounds like you were hiding something.

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See…there you go again, changing the narrative when shown to be wrong. You claimed various groups, including gankers, were ‘out of control’. ‘Narrative’ is a complete red herring ( as always with you ) as narrative has no actual power or influence in and of itself. Nobody ever got shot by 3000 DPS of narrative. ‘Out of control’ can only have meaning in terms of actual DPS. So the systems those such as gankers hang out in are totally relevant.

I don’t say one thing on Monday and something mutually contradictory to it on Tuesday. Doing so is the true sign of someone who does not know what they are talking about.

He’s also mass reporting my posts hehe :smiley:

I EVEmailed him the loss mails tho for my ganks :smiley:

Shot up another miner for Lucas.

Got some good pics of the convo. He took it well and learned to EVE.

Unlike Lucas, I help the nubs :smiley:

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Hilmar, if you can hear me, please blink once, and Ill send you 1000 mars bars

Poor thing must be starving not being able to afford his breakfast from all the grief.

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Neither do I. You simply keep baselessly accusing me of doing so then providing quotes where I clearly don’t do that.

Pilot interaction within New Eden should never be referred as being of extremely poor quality even if one Pilot stands out the most from all of the rest.

If this was true in times gone by, then nothing has changed - except that CCP may now be permitting a different flavour of player to define the game.

Or does it only matter if they are swayed by individuals of whom you disapprove?

If that is the case, then you are no different from we gankers, who decry the incipient decline of our beloved playstyle, blaming at least some of it on CCP’s lending an ear to the PvP-shy carebears.

I do not blame CCP. It is a commercial entity, which will always act primarily in its own interests.

Your accusations regarding their past actions do look like partiality. If responding to the concerns of players is what CCP does, then applaud it!

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

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I don’t think anything has changed, I don’t even think which players are driving that narrative have changed a whole lot. The only difference is that CCP are starting to face the grim reality of that approach.

Except that objectively there isn’t a decline in ganking. Ganking is far more pervasive now than at any almost any time in the past and considering it’s mostly done by a small potion of the playerbase there’s clearly a balancing issue there.

And let’s be clear, my original view on ganking is that it should be balanced, have more risks (as ganking mostly just has cost, rather than risk, and a relatively low cost at that) and that it should be steered away from new players and more towards juicy targets. My stance has only hardened to “get rid of ganking” because without fail every single attempt to have a reasonable discussion on it with gankers has resulted in an onslaught of spam posting and personal attacks.

Will you say that if they follow their current view that ganking harms retention and they put in changes designed to reduce and limit the scope of ganking?

You deny presenting a different view every day of the week…and yet its only yesterday that you admitted you were not sure of this.

And your actual evidence for this is ?

Nope. Just you understand changes.

At no point have suggested that I’m not sure that CCP stated it harms retention. I said I don’t personally have access to enough data to categorically say whether it does, but that I defer to CCP as they have stated it does affect retention. Again, the quote you are now picking out says the same thing. It’s not a change in my stance because my stance has not changed at all.

No…that’s just pathetic as you are not ‘deferring’, you are basically using ‘CCP’ as a shield behind which you can pretend they have stated your own views…when in fact they have not stated the bulk of what you say.

It has to be some of the most dishonest tactics I’ve seen on these forums.

Irony meter at maximum.