Calm down. Aiko is my alt, FYI
Tell you what princess, I’ll play this game.
The manner in which the words “calm down” are spoken matter.
Take my upset spouses hands, sit down and say, “I can see you are really upset. Let’s take a moment to calm down, breath and tell me what’s going on.
Has worked very well for both of us in the past.
Not sure how much of an ass you are to your spouse but I feel really sorry for them.
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Yeah for sure, because there is a so-called “yield penalty” in HighSec. Or wait, its just because the Rocks are so damn big? Which you claimed would be a problem because of “switching targets” or “empty cycles” all the time. Things that simply don’t happen.
Looking at the number of Ice I have mined over the years compared to the 0 times I was blown up, that scenario seems to be fairly acceptable to me. Still way easier than mining in 0.0
It isn’t about income efficiency, but you simply don’t get this point.
Then why need Intel Channels and Scouts as you claimed?
Yeah sure, you have seen the light. Your personal income methods, wealth accumulation or whatever you claim to have or do are absolutely irrelevant.
All the different areas of the game, be it Highsec, Lowsec, 0.0 or WH space have always been compared by a rough estimate in ISK/h you can generate there as average joe with 1 ship. Be it Mining, Anos, Exploration, Missions or now Abyss. Everything beyond that is personal skill, knowledge, relations or whatever. And under these classical rules of evaluation, Highsec ISK generation is just way too high for the safety and convenience it offers. Highsec Income is FAR away from being “disproportional low” compared to lowsec or 0.0.
Read that again and let me know how you managed to contradict yourself in that sentence.
By the way, you made my point. Calm down miner! How does that sound to you?
I’ll wait.
The true utter absurdity Lucas doesn’t get is that without ganking all highsec mining would be AFK. Not that most isn’t already anyway. You’d have the sheer ridiculousness of people pretending to play a space game…while not even at their PCs !
And the craziness of people pretending Eve is built on ‘grind’…whilst not actually doing the grind. Effectively just AFK camping for ISK.
I can see precisely why James 315 got angry about this and it let to CODE and Safety. Eve had become a farcical joke where miners pretended to be spending hours slaving over a hot computer and ‘grinding’ away…when in fact they were AFK watching Youtube videos.
And to cap off the madness, these very same AFK-ers whine loudest about anyone saying ‘**** that !’ and directly bringing money into the game.
Have you ever tried mining? You can’t (within the EULA) mine AFK. You have to constantly haul the ore to a structure. Please explain how you can mine AFK.
Sigh. I have mined in the past and still do occasionally. Given that there is a fixed length cycle it cannot be that hard to just return to PC every 20 mins or so and dock and so on. I have fixed landmarks in the belts so I don’t even need to scurry about with MWD…just warp from station to next asteroid.
So one only really needs to be there for maybe 6 minutes per hour to AFK mine. I’m surprised how many of the gankees in the gank channel even admit they were AFK mining. So we have it direct from the horse’s mouth.
Does Aiko know what you are doing ?
If you have your own Orca Alt with Compression, its not even that much. You can mine for hours and hours without the Orca getting full of Compressed Blocks (depending on the amount of mining chars of course -_-).
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More incorrect, you could not be.
HaHaHaHaHaHa. You really think you’re clever. The example constantly referred to in this thread is “clam down miner” and you know it.
As I take your hands, sit down and say, “I can see you are really trying too hard. Let’s take a moment to calm down, breath and tell me what’s going on.
I believe so, thats why she has formed her business group, not? To get rid of all this semi-afk lazy gameplay passively generating ISKies while watching cheap shows on Netflix?
Why would she ? Contrary to what some claim here, she is not all-pervasive in Eve. I know highsec systems…I even have a list of them…where you can literally mine all day without seeing a ganker. I know of one system not far from a trading hub where I have consistently been the only person in the system for hours. Little undiscovered gems of Eve…that I keep to myself while all the dunces mine in Isanamo and get ganked.
Nice try with the shaming.
Why are you trying to gaslight me more?
You gave a sterile and vacuumed example and I countered. If you can’t handle that, don’t deal into the game.
I deal with all sorts of toxic people and behaviors. And I’m pretty chill with most of it. But I draw the line with gaslighters.
They build fantasy worlds around them and use manipulation, coercion, shame and intimidation to force other people to believe the fantasy they built around them as reality.
Sov Null pays Hilmar’s salary
NPC Null his car insurance
HS his yacht
Ots that simple
Pot, meet kettle.
Hardly. Still trying to use shame.
Please stop before I start reporting you.
Kindly thanks
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Lol. Feel free. I’m sure the ISD’s can read everything that was said and come to a reasonable conclusion.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
It is indeed most of Eve. But my real point was twofold…
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Its not hard to see why groups such as Safety see this as an affront to the whole notion of ‘grind’ in a space game. Miners are not actually ‘mining’. Its not hard to see how James 315 came across an AFK miner and found it an affront to the whole game.
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My main point…which touches on issue you raised elsewhere. The notion that Eve is built on some glorious history of grind, with player ‘effort’ and sweat and time going into everything. But then you find that that’s not really the case and 90% of Eve has been camped into existence AFK ! By people who then have the sheer hypocrisy to take affront at anyone skipping all that pretence and just bringing money into the game.
To be fair, this is unlikely to happen as you suggest. If the gankers are -10, they do not ‘roam’ Highsec, for obvious reasons.
If their security status permits them to do so, stumbling across a lone, gankable Mackinaw will require some knowledge of its fit or, if that is lacking, around 5 T2 Calalysts, just to be sure.
I’m not aware of small groups of gankers speculatively roaming Highsec in those sorts of numbers and fits on the off-chance of catching a miserable Mackinaw in an anomaly or belt.
It may happen (I’m not omniscient), but it cannot surely be a regular occurrence?
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