Nerf Ganking Megathread

You’re the whiny kind of gamer that can’t handle Eve, and should play something else.

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Strawman

Tell me how its not breaking immersion.

Anyone that clicks through the link can see you agreed with every single point. You had even taken the time to separate them out and reply “yes” to each.

See @Carl_Stonewall i told you, after they run out of arguments they go back to their true nature of insults and calling names and stuff. And telling you that your arguments are irrelevant because they dont like them.

Some points. And i dont really see the problem

You did predict it pretty accuratly.

Yeah, but its super personal opinion… and you are treating it like everybody should agree.
I am voting to make high sec more dangerous for miners. Couse in my “opinion” people that afk and multibox just drive our profits lower so…

Please CCP fix this broken game and incentivize more ganks in HS. Lets drive these afk snowflakes back to WoW or whatever 1 click game they played before.

Good luck

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The problem is you have no arguments that are not emotional, personal arguments. No hard data, no concrete measurements, no objective verifiable methodologies, nothing.

The only reason this conversation is predictable is because both sides are exactly a repeat of the last thread. In fact, repeats all the way back to 2003.

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Whatever you say

See? You have no response to my facts and logic.

No not really, as i said if you can make this (below) make sense, i will return to the game:

"Tell me your version of the events at this point:

You are the captain of a suicide ganker ship. You stand with your officer core around you contemplating the future of your fleet of 5 cruisers. Earlier in the day you were inspecting the crews of the ships including your own as you hear one officer say "Commander there is a covetor on the scanner along. If we attack it the authorithies of the system will shoot us to pieces, we will lose our ship and everyone but a few will die… but… [you insert the reason for attacking]

If you can make this make sense to me, ill rejoin eve

Except you gave no opinion except that i am emotional or something. But whoever go read the links that YOU linked will see that what you say makes no sense

The ‘solution’ to stop suicide ganking is easy. CCP could lock the safety setting to green or yellow.

That a safety setting exists and that it is explicitly possible to set it red to make suicide to CONCORD an option is proof CCP doesn’t view it as a problem. Structures are locked to green so we know this is a thing they could have done at any time had they wanted to.

On the subject of Immersion, large civilian craft, even if lightly armed and full of crew and passengers, don’t hold up to smaller dedicated military ships, especially if the civilian ship did not even bother to equip what extra armor or weapons were available to it when it trotted off into the open sea. No freighter captain in their right mind says “I can go into dangerous areas because I’m too big, expensive, and carry too many valuables to be stopped by a small raiding party.”

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I did give opinions. I also gave facts:

  • CCP says high sec ganking is not responsible for the outflow of new players based on their internal data and analyses
  • CCP says high sec ganking is not griefing
  • CCP at last fanfest indicated they do not want to remove ganking

I am pretty sure I listed these as well in the last thread, for you.

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And i say CCP are clowns that are burying their own game into the ground.

your scenario is nothing like the real EVE dude

you are inside a capsule full off goo
you are the top of the human hierarchy because you cant really die
your piece of ■■■■ destroyer is expendable

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I rest my case, thanks.

Finaly

So now that you agree all you have are emotional personal arguments, will you please stop :poop: up the forum and encouraging others to do the same?

I doubt it.