If these are going to be your retorts then I will no longer be engaging with this joke of a thread. You are a sad, sad little girl and the only worthwhile thing you have waiting for you in your future is your inevitable final death, after which you can stop being a waste of biomass and oxygen and be forgotten by all.
You are pathetic, Pirate, your only use in this world is being a living caricature, a dynamic piece of anti-Guristas propaganda, a parody of a person. You want to hurt the State? You are helping it by showing the public just what kind of filth makes up the Guristas.
Can you imagine that? Being such an incompetent orator that you actively hurt the reputation of those you are trying to advocate for? Even when they have the lowliest of reputations already?
âŠWew. I thought about putting my own two ISK there but Remilia already came and said everything.
Well. Funny joke, Vehaima, funny joke. Are you really think that you can show so much love for the Guristas⊠And then swap shoes on the fly and pretend that you are simple fed who only thinks about live of caldari people? Remember, GalNet never forgets.
I just realized how blessed I truly was to be me, and the privilege I enjoy as a capsuleer. The Federation opened my eyes to the truth: that I should use my privilege to help those without it. Iâm just so honoured and grateful that Iâm in the position I am to save the oppressed and persecuted of the State.
I have not troubled to follow all that closely; my understanding though is that she was Caldari, and is now depending on the expedience to whatever argument is being made, either a Guristas psychopath or a Gallente humanitarianâI suppose those two being interchangeable speaks volumes.
Whatever the intentions, perceptions, or recriminations, the migration in question here would reduce social tensions in the State and increase access to skilled labor in the Federation. Win-win.
I donât think so. If any Caldari citizen would entertain the idea of joining a nation as contemptible as the Federation, they should be tried for treason and suffer the appropriate consequences as defined by the tribunal, not handed over to the enemy as free labor. There is only one party âwinningâ here, and your attempts to paint this as anything else are only elevated in their worth when stood alongside Zekaarinâs idiocy.
That being said, the fact that she is the one delivering this message is sufficient to put any statement into question, even less egregious ones.
While I understand the cynical pursuit of profit at the expense of the welfare of its citizens promulgates a mindset that views human interaction as purely a zero-sum game in the State, I do not believe there exists such a thing as winning or losing where benefitting human lives is concerned: only compassion, or lack thereof.
When I first read this I must admit I was quite curious and somewhat sceptical as to this Initiative - knowing the actions of your past selves it is not exactly what I would expect from them.
My response is admittedly one of concern - knowing how the Brothers of Freedom eventually found their fate I would be extremely careful about establishing an organisation that aims to liberate those within the Caldari State, should they be willing to leave and trusting of this organisation. This is of course thinking for the safety of those involved in facilitating such endeavours, as well as for those that seek an exit from that environment. One would have an immense duty of care to those that would place their trust in your organisation.
I would also emphasise that if these individuals do make the journey to the Federation, that their rights as guaranteed under the charter whilst they are in Federation territory would not be infringed - such as the right to freedom of movement and association. I am sure that many will take up the Combineâs generous offer, but at the same time, they need to know that they possess the choice to move elsewhere in the Federation rather than be bound to Unel.
The Federation is a land where someone can find their fresh start, or gain their second chance at life. The least we can do is offer all that the Federation can provide without delay or deliberation for those that genuinely seek it.
The choice of the Vaitunen Combine as host for the initiative is in order to provide a culturally appropriate environment for those entering the program of asylum and resettlement within the Federation to be among other Caldari. Those taking part in the initiative are expected to have been indoctrinated by a lifetime of State propaganda and repression which requires both care and time in psychological deprogramming and counseling for which being in familiar cultural norms is conducive to successful integration within the Federation.
Those who do not desire settlement within the Vaitunen Combine can of course decide elsewhere of their own volition and support programs aimed at their successful integration in the Federation will remain extended if they so choose to partake in them.
Does this mean you wont be attending our Niarja Anniversary Celebration this coming August 18? All of Goonswarm will be there as our celebrated guests of honor!
Weâre serving liminality margaritas iced with frozen Empire tears. Refreshing!
Oh, sweet Maker! How did I miss this pearl!
So, the gurista claims our management âmassacres our peopleâ (obviously without any evidences), and wants to transfer them to the Federation, which⊠~totally_not_massacres_people_for_just_being_Caldari_not_puts_them_into_explosive_cells_not_rapes_not_beats_them_etc_etc~ despite otherwise was proven multiple times?
I donât know why I am even bothering trying to engage in actual dialogue with you, but:
The rest of her post makes reference to the continued operation of horrific POW torture camps. These facilities have been operating for over a decade now (at least) and continue to do so. Not only are those held inside subjected to truly horrifying torture and mistreatment, but the facilities themselves are even rigged with explosives as a part of protocol, as to prevent rescues in case of discovery.
These arenât rogue elements. These arenât actions perpetuated by a corrupt few and disavowed by the Federation. These arenât isolated incidents under some specific commander.
These are official, sanctioned facilities operating under the FIOâs oversight, facilities whose operation have withstood multiple changes in office and havenât garnered even some acknowledgement by the Gallente. These are multi-level atrocities on a wide, observable scale, all committed by the Federation.
This is what Commander Kim was speaking of. How about you learn what sarcasm is and at least try to appear interested in an honest dialogue, you sniveling little rat?
Having done a parse as to what you might be referring to â the existence of facilities within the territories of the State purported to be that of FIO but which remain easily discovered by simple probe scanner seems farfetched to me.
A more likely explanation is that any torture or abuse of prisoners is wholly committed by State authorities and any association to the FIO fabricated in order to deflect blame and attention.
While it is unfortunate the State would go to the lengths of abusing their own citizens in the interests of smearing the reputation of the FIO, it is exactly such abuses the New Dawn Initiative is designed to save the Caldari citizen from.