Helllo,
I’m new to Eve online and I wonder how much value Isk has?
I play Mmorpg since 2001, I seen a lot of things but here the value sistem I don’t seem to get it.
I only do hacking data and relic win wormholes, and it happen a lot of times that i find cargos with 60-80 mil isk that i failed hack 2 times and the cargo blows up, told that in my corp chat and a lot of players started crying and said that is worse the losing a ship, I didnt feel that I lost something or last weekend i blown up 10 ships Punisher in abyss electric T1, like a guy who i saw on youtube do, i told in corp what i did, same reaction all crying for 10 ships that are 25mil.
Its me or i really dont understand the value?
In your opinion what the value since it starts to mater for you?
1 mil isk
5mil isk
10mil isk
50mil isk
100mil isk
500mil isk?
Thats a personal question, only you can asnwer. it has to do with how long it takes you to earn that amount of money to replace your losses. Also are you having fun, even if you loss those ships. The number 1 rule in Eve is don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose. Personally i start to flinch at 100 mil but im a high sec carebear. Some low/null sec guys wouldn’t bat an eye at a 1 billion isk loss. Hope this helps
as Wargod said it depends on you
if you are an experimented trader or a wormholer who earns 1-2B a day, you don’t care roaming in a HAW dread and loose it every day
if you earn 50M a day, that’s a different story
No, then find something else that changes answer to yes.
Seriously, I will never get the capsuleers who’s only value is by how much ISK they have in their walltet / how much ISK/h they can make or how much their ship is worth.
I rather go out having fun in 100 frigates worth 2 mil each, then to be misserable in a 5 bil capital
As the others wrote it is a personal decision that varies among players substantially.
Take me for instance, I didn’t know a lot about the game when I started; and while the game is more or less what I originally thought it was, the details (obscure rules, the meta game, player outlooks, etc.) are very different from my initial expectations. I came to blow up internet spaceships (and get blown up in the process), but a lot of players came to build those internet spaceships.
It never dawned on me to build and “sustain”. I was all about “blowing up” when I started, so I expected to lose everything in the end.
Actually one of the first threads I posted in New Citizens I wrote of my expectations to leave a trail of my corpses behind me in pursuit of my goal at the time.
Not everyone feels that way. And that’s alright, too.
What is important is to find your comfort zone with loss; and to find a group of players you have fun playing EVE with who either share your outlook on loss or support your position on ship loss.
Eve doesn’t have any defined victory conditions. It’s up to each of us to choose a measure of success. For some, it’s their killboard. For others, their wallet. As others have said, it really should be whether you enjoy what you do in the game - it is, after all, a game!
What you consider a lot of ISK will also be very subjective - veteran players will typically have much deeper pockets than new players. Real world incomes also play a role - it’s easy to recover from a billion ISK loss if you can comfortably afford to buy PLEX from CCP!
You won’t get a number, as it is really different to each player. And then it also depends on what you are doing with that ship.
I have a multi billion ISK jump freighter that I happy take out to ship stuff in and out if nullsec.
That doesn’t mean that my PvP ships will be the same value as that. So value at risk and where it starts to matter depends on the player and situation, as long as you follow the first golden rule of EVE you are fine.
you won’t get them
have you read what everybody answered? you won’t get numbers from us, because the value of one ship varies for each player, his activities, his daily income, if he pays his abo with real money, etc.
you want numbers?
ok
my answer is “42”
see " The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything"
The value of stuff you lose depends a lot on how much you earn and at what stage of gameplay you are at.
If I lost a T1 scout Probe in lowsec or jspace, meh, just ammo, pocket change (1.5 mill or thereabouts).
If I lost a hauler with 200 mill cargo on the way to Jita, I’d be annoyed with myself for fuqing up.
If I lost an Orca to trigs cos I was afk (not that I ever have) then I’d be doubly annoyed and a 1 bill isk loss would sting for a bit.
If I gave a newbro corpie 10x T1 fitted frigates to practice PvP in lowsec and he lost them all, I’d only ask how much fun he had cos they are already written off.
But that’s me, for some 1 bill is pocket change, for others 10 bill, for others …
So as ever in Eve the only right answer is “It depends …”
EDIT: I seem to have replied to myself, I am forumtard.
You’re in luck, there are buckets full of numbers.
You are really asking the wrong question. The question really is “what will I need to make me happy?”. If it’s big numbers in a wallet, great, collect zeros and blow your mind. A billion ISK is peanuts to some and a fortune to others.
In Eve, as in the real world, value and wealth are subjective. Often the person’s value and wealth aren’t expressible in terms of currency - I value friends, not because they are rich but because they are good friends. I have an old cheap sports car and a day to day shopping car cost me ten times the amount of money, but the sports car is more valuable to me; if someone said “you can only keep one” I’d keep the one I have more fun in and have the better memories of.
A couple of weeks back I gave a new player a destroyer, well fitted and with faction ammunition, to help him out in a mission. To him that was an incredibly valuable thing - both as a asset and as a sign of friendship in a game that has a harsh reputation. To me, it was a fraction of the the profit I can make on a single manufacturing run - small change - but something I was glad to spend my ISK on.
If you value only gold then you’ll have a cold hard life.
“What do you get if you multiply six by nine?” - you do realise we are both showing our age and background?
to add to the discussion, i once laughed when i saw a video on reddit with a title like “winning the lottery in explo: hacking the treasure can” showing a 2 month-old eve player looting a can in a relic site with… 8 millions…
i laughed, because, at this time, it was still frequent to hack cans with 50-80 millions of relic loot in one can in sanshas and guristas relic sites (intact armor plates or drone receivers) and i was used to looting 100M/h as a mean. I know, i know, now the loot value has decresed due to offer and supply, but it was 2 years ago.
But for this guy, quite new to eve, who had probably done explo mainly in hi-sec before, it was a so huge amount of money that he felt lucky enough to post it on reddit
o/
, but you guys put a stop and gave me a slap on my face 
