October 2018 Release - General Feedback

[Scooter6976]

@Brisc_Rubal

@Francis_McLean

you can either make a completely new ship or you can partially revert the changes to make these ships have a niche again. literally that’s it.

You can’t add any tank? Change the power grid/cpu to let them fit something else? Give them another mid or low slot? Give them a DPS buff? Bonus them to armor/shield repair?

There is literally nothing you can do to make these ships more survivable?

all that sounds like ALOT of work, that you want us to ponder for ccp, after you’ve spent 4-500 posts telling us ecm was too much work to ‘re-work’ proper.

your really rich man, and good, for what little you do. also, your why im here, so thank you for your persistence in the bullsheet category.

@Brisc_Rubal

@Scooter6976

instead, your posts deflect from the core problems associated with this form of '‘agile ‘balance’’", and as a last resort you suggest that if these changes don’t work, they can be rolled back. then you troll me for suggesting they do Just That. I suggest it for predicatable reasons. and because it is on its face absurd.

Yes, at the absolute last resort, the changes could be rolled back if, on the whole, CCP thinks they’ve made the game worse for the bulk of players than it was before. They aren’t going to do that, however, unless there’s nothing else they can do because they acknowledge that ECM was a problem before and that’s why they agreed to change it. If there was no problem, nobody would be asking for these changes. But plenty of people did, which is why they were even in CCP’s radar to fix in the first place.

So when I come asking - because Rise specifically asked us to do this - for feedback on how some of these ships can be buffed to be more useful in the new meta, I am NOT looking for more “you shouldn’t have done this in the first place” and related commentary. That’s not what I asked and not what they’re looking for.

If that’s all you’ve got, then don’t bother responding.

Folks have an opportunity now to provide feedback on what they would like to see on these ships to balance out these changes and provide that feedback. If nobody wants to do that, fine - CCP will do whatever they want (or nothing).

I’m just the messenger here.

they should have done nothing then, in this case. ecm was not broken. it was balanced prior to this debacle.
also, combat inty’s as a whole, were not in a bad place prior to this patch. the claw was. as a whole, with early hic (meh) statements considered, this patch was slapped together on a weekend, because of csm prodding I suspect. you said as much:

"because they acknowledge that ECM was a problem before and that’s why they agreed to change it. "
"nobody would be asking for these changes. But plenty of people did, which is why they were even in CCP’s radar to fix in the first place. "

prove that last one with evidence. are those ‘ppl’ you speak of carrier pilots upset about their fighters being jammed? or machariel pilots upset that their damps don’t work vs rooks? or was it solo pilots fighting 20x frigs? cuz just for the record, that aint solo, that’s getting caught by 20x people with your pants down…