Because a bunch of bloodthirsty savages from Athra showed up and started brutalizing and raping people in places like the old Minmatar Empire?
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I can think of plenty of bloodthirsty savages, but none of them are Amarr.
My people have been conquerors since the very beginning. Do you truly think that makes us evil? The goal has always been to spread Godās Word to any people we find, whether they like it or not - a goal that is nothing less than noble.
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Of course not. Because this is the creation of ācivilizedā people, who arenāt at all evil, and want only to spread Godās Word, right?
Industrial rape facilities are not civilized. Nor is any society that uses them.
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The Order of St. Rynna
Cult
noun
- a system of religious [veneration] and [devotion] directed toward a particular figure or object.
āthe cult of St. Olafā
yet
An interesting way of looking for followers
Nopeā¦ Thatās not barbaric at all.
@Rynna_Alcerys you wanna talk about bloodthirsty savages?
You use āThe word of Godā to justify a āBreeding Facilityā
Yes, treating humanity as cattle is EXACTLY what god intended.
At least the Sani Sabik are straightforward with their desires.
The Order of St. Rynna is very young. Choose your own path wisely before you lead others down the wrong one.
Your classification of The Order as a cult is misleading at best, and is nothing more than an easy way for you to equate us with awful people. We are simply a small group of like-minded individuals who want nothing more than to spread Godās loving benevolence throughout the stars.
The only āvenerationā or ādevotionā youāll find here is aimed towards The Lord.
I classify āThe Orderā as nothing more than two days old.
Youāre looking at when we joined The Devout, though we are still rather new. Either way, it was created after I was recognised by some as a person of significance with much to teach, despite my youth.
I canāt help what others think of me, can I?
Yes and no. But thatās a different subject.
What do your teaching have to say about this staple of Amarrian society?
You yourself stated you could think of plenty bloodthirsty savages
You people keep on bringing up these breeding facilities. If itās due to some kind of obsession, you should know that lust is sinful.
However, slavery has been a part of Amarr culture for a very long time. Itās known that, by serving the chosen people of God, you are proving your subservience to God himself. By being born into Amarrian soociety, these children are brought up in conditions that are far better than those in The Republic. In fact, even the lowest slaves will enjoy a life better than they would back home.
I have always held the position that the Reclaiming is a kindness. We are saving the souls of the lost and allowing them, through work in life, to secure their position by Godās side in death.
But weāre all just a bunch of evil murderers and rapists, right?
I donāt suppose youāve forgotten about the Minmatar prison camps designed to have good, faithful Amarrians tortured in the worst ways imaginable for as long as is humanly possible? (Including this ārapeā that you insist on attributing solely to the Amarr Empire) Or perhaps the Caldari position that once you lose your job, youāre no longer considered a human being?
The world is a harsh, cruel place. But you still have the opportunity to leave this cruelty and find somewhere better after you die. All you need to do is have faith in God and free yourself from sin.
There isnāt much more important than your soul. I suggest you have a long, hard think about just how important it is.
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And who is Saint Rynna, and what did they do to achieve the status of saint ?
A minor, relatively recent saint, perhaps one from the past 500 years or so ?
I mean, itās not a name that I recognise.
Once again, I canāt help what others think of me. But there are those who consider me worthy of praise, some of whom consider me to be religiously significant, hence the title.
Not that it matters, anyway. Surrounded by these good people or not, I would still preach my beliefs and display my faith in all its incandescence for all to see!
So young girls being strapped to tables and raped until they die is better than being whole people, able to make their own choices? Remember: according to the Amarr Rite, virtue is only virtue if it is chosen. These girls are given no choice, no instructionā¦ I doubt most of them have ever even heard of your God.
How can you claim to be spreading the word of God when you canāt even bother bringing it to some of those who have been wholly within the Empire for centuries?
Nowhere have I said that there is a crime only the Amarr commit. But only the Amarr industrialize it, make it a source of their economic power.
Prove it exists, then we can discuss its importance.
From this alone, I can tell that this conversation will go nowhere; I cannot teach one who chooses not to learn.
As Iāve said many times over the years: Iād love to believe in spiritual things, but nobody seems to be able to show one single shred of actual evidence that itās real.
Surely you arenāt just basing your life on childrenās stories and the dopamine release they trigger in your head, right? You must have some actual, demonstrable evidence to support your position beyond āthe people who have a book that excuses their oppression are successful oppressorsā, right?
Iāve seen your type plenty. No matter the evidence I give, youāll simply dismiss it as nonsense. Thatās why you havenāt seen āone single shred of evidence thatās realā.
Open your eyes and look around you. Do you think all of this came about purely by random chance?
And yet, you dismiss verifiable evidence with a wave of a hand.
Breeding facilities are evil and wrong.
No amount of your blustering, handwaving, red herring diversions will ever change that.
No amount of justification, religious exemption, or spiritual blackmail will ever make it a morally acceptable.
What does lust have to do with a breeding facility? This isnāt some sort prostitution gig going on here. Itās an industry of creating more slaves.
There is no equivalency between lust and breeding slaves.
Nice try though.
No, I think it came about as a result of physical laws and processes that we have a reasonably solid understanding of. And those physical laws arose from prior conditions weāreā¦ a bit less clear on. But see, thereās basically three types of data: Thereās observed data, ie: the things we directly can record and verify, then thereās inferred data, which is the stuff that we donāt directly observe, but weāve figured out, and can use to predict future results, which is how we know our āfiguring it outā was correct.
As soon as those predictions start to fail, by the way, we know thereās a problem with our inferences, and need to work up new models to try to figure them out.
Then thereās theoretical dataā¦ what those āwe need to rework thisā require, and the things we try to develop into being reliable enough to move over to the āinferredā category. We come up with explanations, and then we test them. But, seeā¦ hereās the thing: In order to add an element from ātheoryā to āinferredā, that element has to beā¦ well, necessary. Itās the old law of parsimony: you canāt make assumptions without having evidence that demands those assumptions be made1.
And none of our evidence demands anything supernatural. So far, everything we know about has clear physical antecedents. We may not know what they are, but we know theyāre physical. Because we can see the results developing physically.
So, Iām open to literally any evidence you find compelling. Whatcha got?
1. I mean, obviously you can, but it generally just means youāre building errors and unsupported complications into your view of the universe. And at that point, we might as well slather you up in Blood Raider bodypaint and call you a titan, cuz youāre just deceiving yourself.
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So the Order of St. Rynna, isā¦ named after yourself ? Not after a saint recognised as such by the Theology Council ?
And there I was, thinking you and your order were named after a minor local saint that I wouldnāt have heard of.
I mean, itās not uncommon for people in Amarr to be named after saints, or for there to be charitable religious orders invoking the name and deeds of a saint to perform their religious works. So I thought you and your order were like that.
But your order is named after you.
Thatāsā¦ thatās something, alright.
You really ought to stop trying to criticize the Caldari. Every single thing you have tried to say about us has been objectively incorrect, and it really doesnāt look good for you.
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