One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

Disabling docking in NPC stations to criminals, that is justfied and logical and I can understand it, but disabling gates too? That isn’t logical at all and seems as a another of these “solutions” which has single goal → remove ganking from the game allthogether.

Well you can disable -10 chars to use gates, but it won’t solve anything.

We will still be able to clone jump, or self-destruct jump into highec, and even if that wouldn’t be possible, we will stage from Thera and gank in whichever hs that day whs leads to.

Agree it would be excessive and is a sort of “stealth” nerf ganking proposal.

However from a lore perspective it would make sense as some missions involve smuggler and pirate stargates that operate outside the normal gate network, thus would fit in with the lore.

Although I must make it clear I just mention this fact for the sake of having this fact stated and am absolutely not suggesting CCP should implement an outlaw gate network of sorts that only -10 can use as this would be a nightmare of its own to implement and require a lot of effort better put elsewhere. (Though sounds reasonable from a lore perspective and an interesting idea on its own but not even sure it would be the proper or best solution even then.)

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As it should. In reality, people pay taxes and expect better security in nicer areas. Why should Eve be different? Please go down to the Las Vegas strip and start acting a fool and let me know how that works out for you. If you actually commit a serious crime you won’t have a pod to jump into…They keep the street “clean” so the high rollers keep coming back.

And now you’re comparing a video game to real life…

/end thread

As a side note, there are literally hookers and drug dealers all over Vegas, along with loan sharks and enforcers. It’s called Sin City for a reason…

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Wrong again. There are indeed a LOT of seedy areas of Las Vegas, but not on “the strip”…AKA: High-Security Space.

I don’t know how you can’t see the difference.

Headline: Off duty cop killed on Las Vegas strip by homeless drug addict

You were saying?

Off-Duty Cop Killed on Las Vegas Strip by Homeless Drug Addict (networkinvegas.com)

A cop killed by a homeless guy on drugs literally on the front step of the MGM Grand…

It must be really depressing for antigankers to realize that CCP wants ganking in Highsec, and that nothing is ever going to change that.

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I’d shorten the length of kill rights. OK so I killed someone, but that was planned in minutes and executed in seconds ( I had a 10 second window in which to shoot them). The opportunity for the kill was not a 28 day window…so why should the ‘recompense’ be ?

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In real life, crime is equally illegal everywhere. There aren’t “high-security” and “low-security” areas where the consequences for committing crimes are different.

I don’t know how you can’t see the difference, but then again if your ant-like intelligence enables you to demand the same kind of legal and moral imperative enforcement in a science-fiction role-playing video game as in real life, I can probably imagine.

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That you can’t read.

If you actually commit a serious crime you won’t have a pod to jump into…

The obvious implication being that you would most likely get killed by the police. If not, you would spend DECADES in prison, not 15 minutes.

Lucky no one actually gets killed or has a crime committed against them through anything done in game.

It’s not real life, just entertainment.

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Real life : - A Place where you can get arrested for charging up Omaha beach with machine gun blazing

Not real life :- A place where you can charge up Omaha beach with machine gun blazing, shoot lots of Nazis, and get a pixel medal for it.

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Got it. You want zero consequences for your actions.

But, at the same time, you want to punish people that are willing to work hard and build something in this game. Then, you want to take their earnings.

Makes perfect sense.

so¡cial¡ism

noun

  1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

You might have difficulties convincing some individuals, though.

Ugh, that guy should be perma banned and get a psychological help IRL.

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  1. This a vidya game bruv
  2. Why are you so obsessed with Vegas? This the 2nd time you used this example
  3. This a vidya game bruv

ROFL. Keep telling yourself that Ah. So naive.

Bro. You know we playing a vidya game right? Right?

Yes? Its fun being a pirate :smiley: Also uh, this is an open world PvP game where you consent to PvP as soon as you undock. If you wanna build something in space, go play No Man’s Sky :smiley:

Wut. Why is this even here?

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I assume because ganking is a great example of Capitalism in action (perhaps with a bit of anarchism mixed in). He doesn’t like that.

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Merged some Threads in here again.

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:melting_face:

(body too short)

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Then feel free to tell me how a “safe conduct” contract currently works in-game. Without relying on the ‘honor’ system for payment. Because EVE, honor… not a good match.

They don’t exist any more than Courier contracts would exist if there was no courier contract system. If your ‘contract’ system is an honor agreement that “you do X for me and I’ll do Y for you and we’ll both be bound by our word, won’t cheat, won’t betray you to other people, won’t steal your stuff, and will pay fully and on time” then you’ve clearly misunderstood EVE.

A contract system makes it a reliable, enforceable business. An honor system in EVE makes it a scam factory.

You’re not in an alliance, and never have been. You’re in a 5-man corp that misspelled the word “Aliance”. And if you spent 4 months ganking with only less than a bill profit, they can’t be paying you much.

TBH the one who looks greedy, lazy, and wanting to fly around EVE solo here is you. Are you too greedy and lazy to team up with a looter and share your profits with them?

Ganking pays because the profit mechanism is built right in (if you’re not too greedy and lazy). There’s no profit in anti-ganking against 3-million ISK gankfit Catalysts.

You and Altara Zemara are also quite naive if you think that big ganking isn’t about profit. It’s not only the profit from the ganks - the big ganking corps have their own industry farms, mining ops and trading business.

Ganking is as much about “making sure other people’s products don’t make it to market so we can sell ours at more profit” as it is about the gank.

At least, on the corp leadership side. Underlings and greedy, lazy solos don’t really count.