And we all pleasantly oblige because it’s fun to poke ridicule at ridiculous characters who say they’re “relatively new” but have all that experience and knowledge.
Then when they see they F-ed up with their O.P they start attacking the forum members with insults of being a redditor, lmao! ME, a “redditor” HA-Haaaaa!!
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Your posts are looking more and more like “I play a very shallow style of EVE, and I have a lot of pre-conceived notions about how a game should work based on other games I’ve played, and I think all the games I play should be very similar. EVE is bad because it’s does things differently than I’m used to.”
(Note: EVE does have significant design issues… they’re just not the ones you think they are. You allude to a couple of the main ones here and there in some of your PvP and PvE points, but you keep missing the mark.)
That’s great if you’ve got 4 hours a day every day to put into a single game. The difference with EVE is, players can achieve similar progression whether they can devote 1 hour a day or 10 to in-game play.
You keep trying to hammer this square peg into the round hole. You have a certain vision of yourself delving into a game and becoming a “top %” player by grinding it hard. Perhaps you didn’t realize, but being able to grind 4 hours a day on a game is an “unfair advantage” that not everyone else has?
You’re just going to have to toss in the towel and admit that EVE is different than what you’re used to, that you can’t adapt to it, and you’re never going to make it to “top %” status. Killing Ventures in your Loki won’t get you there bud - I don’t really think you’re cut out for the long haul.
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How many times do I have to say I don’t care ? Deal with it.
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What “advantage” is he talking about when anyone can do it?
I mean, I would also multibox if I cared enough but EvE is just another game to me. I play lots of games, online and off-line single players. EvE isn’t in my Favorites on my Steam page, Wurm is, and in no way am I trying to be ‘gud’. I just want to be entertained for a few hours.
You play EvE by the rules established by CCP. If someone doesn’t like that then it’s easy to uninstall a game. Here, I’ll put up the link for the mentally challenged.
Uninstall or remove apps and programs in Windows - Microsoft Support
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Nah…that’s largely a myth. As Sun Tzu famously said, the good warrior wins the battle before it is even fought, and avoids losing. As Destiny says above, winning is about planning to win in advance. Not planning to be mediocre and pretending one has ‘learned’ after the event.
The only times I knowingly face a loss in advance are where its a tactical loss in a fleet where I was part of the greater victory. But even there I take every step to avoid losing…make sure my ship is not trailing way behind the FC…make my tank skills as high as possible…etc, etc.
But I never lose a ship just for the sake of it and then try to retrospectively pretend I have ‘learned’.
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Well…it is also the case, as others have pointed out, that those who have more time to grind have an ‘advantage’ over those who don’t. Yet I never see anyone whine that ’ Joe Bloggs has 10 hours a day to grind but I only have 1 hour '. It’s probably the biggest ‘advantage’ in the entire game…built right into it…yet the whiners are curiously silent on it.
Instead the whiners whine that the person who only has 1 hour a day to grind brings PLEX into the game to make up for it. How bizarre. Someone is making up for a disadvantage and whiners protest they have an advantage.
And it is the same with multiboxing. Additional Omega accounts do not grow on trees or get handed out by some unfair CCP lottery. One has to pay for them…somehow. That is definitely a disadvantage to one’s wallet, or to one’s grind time if one has to grind for the PLEX.
Sure, I have more than one Omega…but I am paying for more than one Omega, and I’ll be damned if I don’t use that to good effect. And it’s not like I’m the only person allowed to do this.
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Because whiners are for the most part selfish. They can’t get past what they want and will push for their perceived due regardless of the damage done to others.
Yeah, CCP sells PLEX to turn into isk and taking advantage of that is a crime, a crime I tell you!!
Again, CCP allows Multiboxing ( and seeing how competitive the game is, it’s a good idea ) and you’re not doing anything more than play the game as intended by the Devs so the whiners can put a sock in it!
And just to press the point, I will buy more PLEX today, 64,99€ worth of it for 1500 PLEX and buy that top and pants I’ve been wanting from NES.
Whiners be damned.
no, my gameplay isnt “shallow” (wtf)
are you seriously suggesting that the pve content requires more than 2 seconds of thought? because, there is literally nothing challenging or fun about doing the same sites over and over again, when nothing changes or differs pretty much. fit a ship once and you can run the same thing on autopilot. if you compare that to other grindy mmo games, eve is LACKING a lot to be desired.
thats not “shallow” gameplay, thats a lazily designed pve system.
btw as i mentioned earlier, i dont care about being a top% player, since individual skill isnt present in the first place. i just like space games. My entire point was there COULD be more of it, because as of right now eve has no content beyond a few weeks of gameplay.
take Diablo 3 for example, after a few hours you have pretty much tried out everything, atleast on one character and then just run grifts, which are always the same, basically. Now compare that to an actual good hack n slash like PoE. much more content lategame, different bossfights, tons of fits you can f*** around with etc. why are you so against making it more fun? it doesnt make sense to me.
It is, but again, not the stuff you think.
This is literally your shallow gameplay. It appears you checked out a new game, read some guides, joined a corp. Now you’ve done the same easy things with your corp over and over again and listened to your corp buddies complain about doing the same thing over and over again… and decided that’s all there is to EVE.
Did you do Pochven? Abyssals with 2 friends? Homefront with 4? Pirate Insurgencies? Incursions? FoBs? Low sec gang roaming? WH diving?
From what I can see you’ve dipped lightly into a couple activites, repeated those endlessly, then decided that’s all there is. Well fine, then give up and move on. I mean, if you weren’t looking for something different to play, why even try EVE? You can just keep doing whatever you were doing in all the much, much better games you played with “tons of fits”.
EVE does have some pretty lazy design problems - you just haven’t played long enough to differentiate between the real ones and the ones you’ve run into because you’re only a few months in and already stuck in a rut.
Break out of your rut or bail. Or stay here and keep complaining that you tried EVE for something different but holy shat, it’s actually different! Bummer.
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Gosh…I’ve been playing Eve 2 years and 4 months and still feel like I have only just started. I agree that PvE is rather boring and unfulfilling. Apart from ratting and anomalies I avoid it. But with PvP the sky’s the limit. The main corp I am in has had lowsec and nullsec battles practically every day this year. I have another account just getting into covert ops ships, while another learns to bump with a Stabber, and another is getting into my first T3 ship. And my first Paladin is due shortly. And yes…I will park it outside corp HQ in Oipo with a ‘look at me…I’ve finally got a Paladin’ stance. Why not.
But Eve isn’t any of these other games you refer to. It is unique. It’s a long slog, steep climb, and many fall by the wayside. Eve is a test of determination. As Destiny says, its more like a survival horror game where the main goal is just to survive. Many don’t. And that is how it should be.
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Then we don’t need to deal with your posts any further as you reached endgame and can finally move on? 
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No one forced you to install the game.
Then why are you still playing? You should be done with the game by now.
BTW OP: there is a saying about Eve Online that „the only way to win is to quit“ which is often shortened to just the euphemism „winning Eve“ (aka „I am quitting“).
Before you go and win, if you contract your stuff to me I can make sure it’s put to good use.
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How is the game?
Haven’t logged any of my 22 account on in months.
It obviously has overall gameplay issues. Some new player just found out…
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You would do better going into a space where pvp is quicker to get into for newer players and in my opinion is low sec faction warfare.
If you think you can only be caught on a game then do some complex’s and you will feel immortal until someone catches you and then you will realize how dangerous anywhere worth being can be.
Also Eve is the most skill intensive game I can think of but that’s only because I understand the mechanics I’ve been with groups that kill 100’s of players with only like 20 people you cant really do that in other games becuase skills dont matter as much in other games.
Do yourself a favour and start watching some pvp videos on youtube.
Wb. Mate
okay so we are only trolling now ig
I’ve been playing for 10 years and there’s a myriad of things i haven’t done in this game.
You have experienced only a tiny fraction of what this game has to offer.
Most of the content revolves around pvp. EVE is a pvp game where YOU need to find your own content. It’s not spoon feed to you like most other games.
You really need to wrap your head around that fact.
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It’s pretty funny watching the OP drag a bunch of the local boomers through the mud with what are actually entirely rational arguments. EVE’s gameplay is shallow, with its only evergreen feature being the ability to go out and destroy other players at will (a feature that has been nerfed repeatedly over the past 15 years due to incessant crying by casual players, mind you). Everything else is a simple, repetitive grind for money.
There’s a lot of copium involved in thinking that EVE is “difficult” or (lol) “most skill intensive.” You can tell, because these players will always recommend other players to “expand” their EVE experience by either doing more generic PvE grinding for ISK, or doing something nonsensical like going into “PvP space” with your naked rear end hanging out of your assless chaps and waiting for a 40-man gang to kill you (there’s your difficulty right there, hurr hurr). When your only in-game goal is to accumulate as much fake money as possible, and PvP is scary because it can make you lose your ship and set your wealth accumulation back by a day, of course EVE will feel like an expansive, unexplored, and dangerous place. But it doesn’t feel that way to people who treat EVE Online as an actual game, for whom the shallow veneer of the “sandbox” becomes apparent very quickly.
Hearing this makes them feel extremely uncomfortable, because it challenges the prestige they presume to command by virtue of playing this “difficult, skill-intensive” game. Having other players expose EVE’s historical lack of content and difficulty isn’t very palatable, since it endangers their ability to brag about being an “elite” EVE player to all of their friends.
Likewise, any proposal to reduce the grind and make the game more enjoyable for new players is anathema to them. Some of the most toxic responses I’ve ever gotten from people on this forum happened when I proposed giving players a small universal income, and starting out new players with a few million skill points. Yes, these people are that afraid of anyone being able to become competition to their daily grind. I have a thread in C&P calling out and insulting, straight to their faces, the biggest null-sec alliances in the game, and the most I’ve gotten out of that is a few sheepish smiles. But giving players 2 million ISK a day so that new players don’t have to slave away Venture-mining high-sec Veldspar during their first month? Actual death threat.
These EVE boomers are walking, talking caricatures of their own perversions.
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