I’ve done ganking and made nearly 200 bil isk doing so. Its boring but pays well. It needs more skill like I’ve mentioned before. Catalyst and talos are cheap ships relative to the income.
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Um no. You were in error claiming that cost was bypassed. It wasn’t. Profit includes cost.
I don’t rate you highly enough to care what you think of me really. You’re just an idiot as far as I’m concerned.
Just no.
Actualy panic and dammage control for assault ship are an error.
This is like me saying “beef” and you go on about hamburgers and when corrected you say " But burgers include beef."
You are irretreivably lost same as your testicles.
And its a common reaction when one cannot keep up to declare other’s idiots to salvage their ego.
The definition of beef does not include hamburgers.
The definition of profit is income after costs. You cannot reference profit without acknowledging that there are costs, even if you do not explicitly use the word cost in your statement.
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
The definition of hamburgers does include beef. PYHOOYA
Let me explain.
Beef - hamburgers
Profit - cost
The definition of profit includes cost.
The definition of beef does not include hamburgers.
The definition of hamburgers does include beef.
See? You’ve accidentally turned them around.
No I haven’t.
If I am talking about beef in general and then you start going off on hamburgers specifically you have changed the topic.
The point made was about cost. Yes, profits can cover cost but that was not the point. The point was that ganking can be done so cheaply some people don’t bother looting anything, not even their own wrecks. They don’t profit. They incur a loss each time and the cost is meaningless to them.
And yet Lis’ point addressed both: her statement is that ganking for profit is not easy.
There is a cost (in ISK and effort) that is not trivial. It has a high risk of no returns due to the randomness of loot drops; it can absolutely cost more to execute a Tornado gank against a hauler than ends up dropping as loot because RNG killed all the valuable loot and it dropped only trash loot. This is especially true if there is only a single stack of high-value loot and a lot of lower-value stacks - only if the high-balue stack drops is the gank a profitable run, and period the gankers are out time and effort as the used alts are now unable to do anything at all for 15 minutes. Gankers will literally spend an hour waiting for a target that has a good balance of high-value loot and low EHP to make the gank likely to make a profit, but it is far from guaranteed.
Lis also is addressing for profit ganking exclusively; counterpoints about ganking for fun/salt are not applicable to that argument, as they are different activities.
This was the entire post. No mention of profit.
Talking about what Lis wrote would be greatly aided by some translating that into ENGLISH.
And LIs was replying directly to what I quoted above.
But there is mention of cost, and cost is inherent in profit.
Also, is it really necessary to bash someone for not having perfect English? Plenty of players are ESL.
And beef is inherent in burgers. Must you keep pushing this in circles?
Ganking can be done at very low cost. Can you just conceed that point and stop trying to shift this toward the chance of profit please? We know.
Fair enough. I should not have done that. Fact remains though, I am not sure I understand, particularly since I don’t think the person is a ganker so why would they go gank someone?
Aside from the fact that it is not (since there are veggie burgers): it’s still true that Lis didn’t ignore cost, just referred to it via implication rather than explicit speech.
Just because I’m not ganker right now. Doesn’t mean I never ganked or was part of ganking group
Please rewrite your statement from earlier in correct English so I can even understand it. I said I didn’t understand it. Don’t talk at me anymore until you clarify. Its useless. I can’t reply until I understand what you wrote. FFS
Happy? Was it really that hard to understand?
Then do everyone here a favor and don’t reply…
No. Its still wrong. I think you want to say, “Have you ever ganked anyone for profit?” Although “Did you ever gank anyone for profit?” would also be acceptable.
And it still seems an odd question to ask. Why not just get straight to your point, if its your point and say that ganking can be profitable?
Although even then its weird because the point the person was making was that ganking is usually cheap in cost. If its profitable then cost is zero meaning its even cheaper. How is that a counter-point? You could have just said “Damn right its cheap! Its so cheap you actually gain money if you do it right!”
Plus you really confused the issue by mixing up your reply with the point about it not being easy. Its hard to tell if you think he should try ganking to see its not easy or see its profitable, which once again his problem was that it was cheap regardless. Word salad.
Back at you.
Okay. Lets see if Profile - Scipio_Artelius - EVE Online Forums goes after him for saying ganking takes skill like he went after me. 
This wasn’t my point. Don’t assume things out of blue or try to put words into my mouth.
Learn basic math…
And that is why I said “if”. Do you even have a point?
Let me put it another way…cost is essentially erased. But this was not the point you were replying to.