The constant war decs are becoming an extreme nuisance. Now that players have realized they can get around the 2 week restriction after losing a war dec by hopping to a different corp or alliance, they are perpetuating constant wars for the sole purpose of preying on the weak and defenseless at tradehubs only. It’s not like they are declaring war to show their combat supremacy against other forces, they just want easy kills. They have destabilized tradehub markets and made game play extremely difficult for non-combatant players.
There is no longer “balance” in Eve Online due to this issue. It has become a game where agression is rewarded, non-agression is punished. Please help restore balance to the game so all may enjoy it.
I agree with Zydhek here in order to get around the wardec’s and those people camping at Jita and other trade hubs. I have had to use alts that are outside of the corp who are not war eligible to move things to trade hubs. This is a real pain in the neck.
They seem to be using a loop hole that allows them to corp jump from one alliance to another and start a new wardec straight away. I also seen that they are wardeccing 100-200 alliances or more at the same time just to get these kills at Jita or the trade hubs and this is not really engaging a PVP group, they are just targetting miners, haulers that are unaware they are camping in the trade hubs. The loopholes should be fixed and there should be a limit of 10 alliance to wardec a day not over 100’s a day.
This is now a constant wardec that never stops as soon as one ends, they immediately start a new wardec and it is the same people week after week after week. This is really gotten out of hand now and it should be stopped or Eve Online will lose alot of players.
Yes, but they are getting around a game mechanism that should be closed. Why the loophole? Their is a cooldown for wars and this exploit is skipping that cooldown.
Eve Uni had to resort to using an holding company as it was being wardeced just about every other week. Yes the CEO and the leadership have been talking to the dev’s about this problem. As new players see we are getting see so many wardec’s that we get. That they are simply not coming back to the game as it is no longer fun.
Every last one of these corps were also wardecing anywhere from 15 to as many as a hundred or so other corps. All so that they could shoot at people at trade hubs.
It has gotten out of hand. This is no longer ‘hey let’s shoot at each other and have some fun’ or even ‘you pissed us off for reasons, prepare to fight’.. It has become. ‘Lets wardec as many corps as we can and legally gank people at trade hubs’.
In my opinion, these guys are cheating the system. They found a way to exploit a loophole. I don’t pay good money to play a game just for others to cheat and ruin my game play.
This is a great example of exploiters trashing CCP fundamental game design and CCP does not even seem to care. These exploiters have basically turned HI-sec trade hub space to Null or Worm Hole gate camps minus the bubbles. What’s even better is there is no mechanism for a player based way to solve this problem. Your corp and another 40+ other corps who have no relationship to each other are lumped together in a war dec by corporations that often do not even have enough members to field a basketball team for the sole purpose of Concord-free- HI Sec ganking… One would think that players could fleet up and take care of the problem? Yep.. that is done pretty much every time, but then they don’t even try to defend their base. But instead immediately disbands after base destruction then form a new corp and happily continue on their consequence free Hi-Sec ganking. You basically you have a permanent suspension of the fundamental design rules CCP set in the first place.
Leave an alt in station that never undocks… the rest join an NPC corp.
Aggressing corp looses isk for war dec, and non aggressive corp wins. (only to worry about being ganked which is an issue wardecced or not)
The amount of ISK to declare war is laughable. The issue is not the war declaration mechanic, it is people ‘Phoenixing’ the war anew through multiple entities with essentially the same protagonists each time.
I am in Eve University corp. Eve University is using a holding company for now and is in talks with the dev’s about these wardec’s. As of right now Eve University is not war eligible. It has been about three weeks and counting since the last wardec. If you are looking to join Eve Uni please do.
Now it appears they may have split into 2 groups so they can stagger war decs and keep a more constant war going on for ganking purposes. The war decs are solely for the purpose of ganking in highsec without consequence to security status or concord intervention. This has made highsec unsafe to play. Might as well eliminate highsec status of systems at all.
Agreed, the mechanic is being exploited. As soon as the war hq is destroyed they leave corp and have another hq. So there is minimal down time from one war dec to the next. Surely there was not an intention to make trade hubs permanently camped with minimal isk consequences. Have been permanently war decced for 4 weeks + by constant different corps…
Eve Uni started a holding corp. Put its assets in that holding corp and has been in talks with the devs. I do not know if your corp can do it as well. But I would suggest that doing pretty much the same. Create a holding corp and have your CEO and board start talking with the devs. Especially doing the latter. The more people in talks with the devs. Maybe the faster this gets resolved.
As far as I can see there’s no way to truly close it.
Even if ‘corp hopping’ is deleted people could simply have multiple characters, each in another version of the main war dec corp and cycle between characters as the others are on war cooldown.
No, the best way to avoid war declarations is:
put no structures up with your group so you can be war immune,
live away from trade hubs where these war dec players hang out, or
move out of HS, which makes wars irrelevant
Alternatively group up and fight. Go kill their war headquarters.
I do not know what the solution is going to be or even what it might look like. But I certainly hope that the devs can come up with a solution and soon. It is one thing to war dec a corp every 2 weeks cause you can. It is a whole other thing to get around the 2 week cool down period by forming yet another corp. Just to wardec the same dozen or so corps all over again.
The problem with the “no structures” issue is that many of us are in corps that are in alliances. and even if the corp we are in doesn’t have a structure, if the alliance does then we become war eligible.
And living outside of high sec doesn’t solve the problem. sometimes those that do production need things you can only get from tradehubs. with the war decs always on, it severely restricts our game play or makes production costs much higher when we have to buy materials at non trade hubs or from others no in war decs that can go to trade hubs and transport the items.
I do not know all the ins and outs of what Eve Uni did. As I am not anywhere near the leadership or even the CEO. However all the structures are now in the Holding corp. As a result we are ineligible for war. But you are right it costing more to make that trip out to a trading hub than it needs to be.
The last time I tried before we became ineligible. I got chased through the gate and managed to get to a station to wait them out. The other week I came through the gate and saw ships shooting the ■■■■ out of someone. I didn’t wait around and warped out fast as I could. It is getting stupid out there.
Then make sure your corporation doesn’t join an alliance that places structures if the goal of your corporation is to be war-immune without structures.
Alternatively by joining an alliance you could ask all those people from the alliance to help you fight the war targets and destroy the war headquarters.
Here’s a neat trick: every account has three characters slots.
My third character slot is a character with hauling skills who is in a corporation that is war-immune. I can safely haul my own stuff to and from HS without issues and ignore all the HS war declarations while in HS. The rest of the time I live outside HS anyway.
My alliance is pretty much permanently involved in some HS war. I notice nothing of it.
That’s not the issue, war HQs are getting destroyed all the time and it changes nothing, a new one is already anchored under a different alliance the corp switches to as soon as the war is invalidated, declaring a new war.
The issue is the loophole where these corps are able to maintain a constant war, despite losing their HQ should bring a 2 weeks cooldown to war declarations
