You’re correct, but the ability to get unallocated SP is huge, no matter the quantity. But large/small injectors can’t really be compared to alpha injectors because while they both provide unallocated SP, alpha injectors create their SP from nothing - nobody else had to put any time in for them to exist. All because CCP wanted to push them out rather than fix whatever was holding them back from just introducing an item or w/e to allow for increased training speed. Instead they went the lazy route, introduced something we already had and put a timer on it to mimic the effect very poorly.
And for the record, injectors have caused far more damage to this game than anything else ever introduced. So implementing mini-versions of them may work to draw in more money for CCP, but it will only add on to the damning effects they have had.
The sad truth is, that a lot of people actually want to buy advantages in games. They just don’t want to pay for the access to the game. But if you show them a nice fat ship and give them the impression they could stomp other people with it right now if they purchase it instead of grinding for it they will start to throw money at the screen.
If this was not the case then there would never have been the need for PLEX in the first place, because no one would be interested in RMT, pay the subscription and we would actually have something like a “fair game” where the stuff you have has to be gained in–game and can’t be purchased with the credit-card. Sadly the gamers today are not like this, perhaps they never were.
So the most part of the whole free2play/pay2win mess is actually the fault of the players. That does not mean the developers are not also guilty for completely giving in to the whole thing and creating abominations of “games” with the single goal to leech more money from the idiots who think purchasing virtual goods has any value.
Go check out the MER, you tell me what damage I’m so concerned over. Look at the number of super, titan, and rorq pilots that have sprung up out of thing air due the the collective effort of thousands of extractor alts.
Seriously, are you freaking blind to what has been going on in the game around you?
I have read the last several. I am still perplexed where is the problem in there?
How many is that? What table is that in the MER? And those SP had to come from somewhere.
Can you at least point to something a bit more concrete? Here is the converstion:
You: SP trading causes problems.
Me: What problems?
You: Just look at the problems.
Me: Where?
You: They are obvious?
Me: Not to me…
You: Are you blind?
Pretend I am blind and state what is so obvious to you.
So just like always then? There has always been a way for someone to aquire an older more trained character without the wait if they have the cash. CCP have merely streamlined the selling out process to make it more efficient than ever before.
Okay…not sure I see the down side for me or CCP. They get lots of extra money for that.
And if the person quits afterwards…well, they were likely to quit anyways, and this way CCP got a nice pile of cash to keep things going. Would I like players to stick around? Of course, but seems like an okay deal for me and CCP.
(The for me is it helps keep the game up and running.)
Pretty much.
And they also created a way for new players to get a jump on SP–i.e. they can pick up a few injectors and close the SP gap…is that bad? Maybe. Is it good? Maybe…probably a bit of both.
And, selling SP can help flatten out the income distribution too. I buy extractors (a way for new characters to get ISK). Yes I sell injectors for ISK which puts ISK back in my wallet…but then I turn around and buy PLEX which is another way to shift ISK from a cranky old fart like me to new fresh faced players who want ISK so they can lose lots of ships. I’d love to see how the distribution of ISK has changed over time with the advent of PLEX and SP farming.
There maybe some downsides to it. Nothing is all good or all bad. I’m far from convinced that there are only downsides or that they are that significant at this point.
The correct, and likely actual reality, procedure for CCP would be using confiscated PLEX for the buddy program. Years ago they said they have thousands and as they keep banning RMTers and bots, this number can only go up.
It would make zero sense to create PLEX out of thin air instead of using those.
@Teckos_Pech, you are right with your view. My point is that the game has changed from what I remember. I liked the hard unforgiving atmosphere that eve provided.
I just worry that due to skill injectors people won’t experience the true nature of eve, they won’t face the hardships I did and they won’t understand what it means to build something.
The things I mention here made eve a great game and very different from any other game out there. I guess I’m just moaning about change really because I’ve been here since near the beginning.
Any game I’ve ever brought has always been played on the hardest possible setting, I never use cheat codes. I like a tough challenge.
Hi, neither of us is wrong here we just have different perspectives. I’m just used to savouring the time it took me to train my skills. I was made to struggle and rely on the skills I did have.
No, you are not moaning about change Aaron. You present valid reasons, you don’t hate it just because it is new. I think you are completely right and I share your opinion.
From CCPs perspective, the “confiscated” PLEX probably dont even exist, except as a number on a spreadsheet somewhere. There isnt some massive hidden PLEX trove in Jove.
Far simpler just to generate a new PLEX, than somehow transfer an existing confiscated PLEX to each and every buddy account fulfillment.
My view is the confiscated Plex is still valid and should be part of the economy. If its purpose was to make RL cash from the sale of it then it would have been generated by a player who paid a sub.
Confiscated Plex or isk should be used for prizes for competitions, I think you touched on this point earlier salvos.
Well, you’re priviledged to have your opinion, no matter how nonsensical it is.
And that, Salvos, it is!
They can not treat confiscated PLEX as if they didn’t exist, because they exist and are backed by real money. They have these PLEX, and they were paid for. It makes absolutely zero logical sense not to have them given out for consumption and instead creating PLEX with no actual value behind them. Zero. None. Null. Nada. Keiner. Nemo.
I don’t know why you’d make such a horrible business decision, but if you did, you’d not run that business for long.