Says who ? We can run them just fine, but literally nobody is interested anymore.
There are way better money makers around.
And if you combine pochven with thera and some wormholes you can basicly go anywhere you want.
Not my problem that Stribog became a one trick pony that got it’s trick nerfed.
back to eve since 1.5 yers of ragequit. tried to pochven. ccp nerfed pochven. thx ccp.
instead of removing the multiboxers, you left ONLY the multiboxers in the pochven
Nah fam, we’re not about to start running KRAB beacons. Luckily Horde space is always just one jump away so we can take out some anger on them lmao.
I agree that the isk from obs was high, but for people running in fleets with other people, the PvP contest with other fleets meant the isk/hr was comparable to other isk making methods while involving a lot more thought and PvP. Sure there were nights where we were lucky and got a couple obs in a row uncontested, but that was balanced out by the times where we got bullied off obs all night and didn’t make a single penny after hours. The people who really made bank in pochven were the people running 15 ship fleets by themselves, since they got all the payments. I think the best way to tweak things would be to make obs harder to complete and more unfriendly to drones, and i also would have been fine with reduced payout isk, but this 90 minute timer makes it impossible to group up for obs running fleets the way we used to, while not affecting the multiboxers as heavily (since they can just dock up and then instantly reform later), which really sucks. It will reduce the isk being made in pochven sure, but only by starving out the groups running fleets and leaving multiboxers to dominate the remainder.
ya, but they run the risk of being contested by other fleets and apex fleets which are more and more common
I actually think that discourages PVP, since enemy can not warping and contest the site easily, but good idea
On 200 mill ishtars? Really? I will close the site on a cheap format before the battleship fleet arrives at it.
This change won’t just decrease the amount of isk generated in Pochven, it will kill the region entirely and these sites will effectively only become accessible to multiboxers. Nobody is going to form a fleet to do OBFs when there is 2 hours of downtime in between them, and with only multiboxers left running sites, that will cause pvp in the region to easily drop by 90%. These sites don’t just generate ISK, they generate content, and this extraordinarily heavy-handed change nerfs BOTH when it’s only the ISK generation that needs to be nerfed.
feel like the CCP might want to remove the standing decrease for World Arks than it will be forced BS meta than, along with the 90mins obs
It’ll be interesting to see what these numbers look like in a week’s time. I suspect the “Total Kills” will easily drop by 90%
In Stribog’s case there is at least something to be said about you guys being there from the start and being part of the pochven furniture.
And groups like The Boyz that came in later, but put effort into getting there and always being good for some random pixel violence or shenanigans. Same for Drake, Beta, the triglavian blackfleet bois, Rote Kapelle and the rest, most of us know who’s part of zorya’s wayward children’s club.
But the large nullblocs can crawl back to their vast amounts of space and cry their crocodile tears there. FRT and Horde in particular are the main culprits.
Pochven was never designed to support entire null coalitions, it’s a good thing that this is finally being adressed. I sincerily hope they kill off TTT income too so they finally get to use the VAST amounts of space they are holding.
Dora has seen the light too, you don’t need them to have fun or pvp or income.
Change your ways, leave the blocs to their misery and join a local group.
True, the meta is really cheap atm lol, so that is why I think ccp should be it be impossible to run it with drones like the drone aggro in the event sites and filaments
Agreed. Actually funny watching people cope
In fact, all that was needed was simply to strengthen the sites so that they could not be played on a cheap format such as ishtars. This would lead to people flying expensive ships to these sites. And this would lead to pvp on these expensive ships and their loss. Which in turn would balance gain/loss. I agree that it is not right to give access for such a good income to people on cheap ships. But that is exactly what was done. And now you just decided to kill this region completely.
Take the Ishtar fleet as an example. 1 Ishtar costs about 200 million. 15 ishtars make a site in 15 minutes and this fleet is fully paid off. At the same time, it is practically impossible to kill the Ishtars if they themselves do not want to. Now let’s take the Palladin fleet. Each ship costs 3 billion, plus a pod that costs another 3 billion. To fully pay for such a fleet, you need to make at least 20 sites, while there is practically no way for such a fleet to escape from the enemy fleet. They will have to fight.
Yes hi hello, so like, yea the stupid sites needed a nerf but why a timer instead of isk payout? Why is everything in this game being pushed towards timers instead of spontaneous content?
Why am I even asking this question when it won’t be answered, anyways?
MJD is a thing
And zoryas desintegrator fo 100mill each?
that would be halerious
Thing is, OBFs were by far the biggest driver for PvP in the region. With this cooldown in place, nobody is going to want to do OBFs any more except multiboxers. There are a bunch of other ways OBFs could have been nerfed that wouldn’t have completely killed the region the way this change is going to. I would be far more happy if they just nerfed the ISK payout by 50% because then there would still be a lot of activity in the region. Nobody is going to want to form for a fleet when they have to sit around for 2 hours twiddling their thumbs in between any action.
Also: very few people in this game PvP without some kind of extrinsic motivation. People like for their fights to be meaningful in some way, whether it be fighting over sov, over structures, FW, or control of PvE sites. This change completely removes that motivation for PvP in Pochven.