Reported for being verbally harassing of another EVE player.
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Thereâs too much real-life political â â â â â â â â being thrown around in this thread. The fact of the matter is CCP isnât under any obligation to host anyone behaving in a manner they consider unacceptable.
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Seems pretty common from as far back as at least 2013.
https://www.met.police.uk/sd/stats-and-data/met/year-end-crime-statistics/
Go to the 2nd tab âEOY other Crimeâ
They commonly use âPublic Order Actâ, iâm sure there are other âoffencesâ as well.
Pretty ridiculous, and not as in âhahaâ but as in âought to be publicly ridiculedâ.
Itâs exactly that they change they standards from âbe the bad guyâ to âwelcome to hello kitty onlineâ is what we find unacceptable.
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That hasnât happened.
The Communications Act
TLDR below.
The only reasonable standard for limiting speech is on the line of real life incitement to impending violence.
Anything else is trivially covered by the mute button. If some dimwit wants to make a fool of themselves (see the code parasites spamming local about their ridiculous âbookâ and its totalitarian fascist machinations), and it bothers you, just mute them.
The harassment section is very poorly defined, and leaves a very wide opening for various layers of unintended consequences.
The real-life section seems to be well enough defined.
TLDR - CCP is free to police their platform any way they like, if they keep these rules but apply them from a generic position of âdont be an excessive assâ, and the real life section of course, then great.
Otherwise: GET WOKE GO BROKE
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This is why they just have a judge who says it meets or doesnât meet a clear law rather than a jury who have to interpret the situation and multiple possibly relevant laws as well as intent on a case by case basisâŚ
Oh wait. Real law works on a case by case basis also.
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The real world doesnât have judges or enforcers writing the law. They each are separate entities with separate individuals. There is a system of checks and balances to ensure that one group doesnât get too powerful, as well as an appeals process that generally changes jurisdiction.
Yes, real world legal situations work on a case-by-case basis. However, thereâs a much clearer definition of the law, and unlike real-life, you are not guaranteed a fair trial.
Do you see why there might be an issue?
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In common law systems judges literally do make some of the law. Itâs called case law.
Thatâs case law and precedents, both of which is considered by all involved to be interpreting the law rather than actually writing it. And again, judges are not elected officials who actually sit down and write it; they interpret it.
What about Hilmarâs words?
We engaged a Korean group in collaboration with our developers as strategic ambassadors, to talk to people about joining the mission of the new strategy. Out of that process we found a lot of resonance and interest in the changes we were making and what we were planning up ahead.
And as Hilmar had his shares in it, he actually was the owner too. Not anymore now tho. But his cash is all right after the sell.
we found a lot of resonance and interest in the changes we were making and what we were planning up ahead
Investing in China perhaps, but China dont like Korean Investors in gaming at all. PA thinks they will be not treated as Koreans now? 
I freely admit to being prejudice. It has nothing to do with race or ethnic background. But how I percive your attitude and actions to others and myself. Grammar used. Displays of strong or weak mental fortitude. We all stereotype at one level or another.
(Being born with a disability, Ill give a helping hand if needed, fully understanding they had no choice in coming into the world that way. Accidents happen and can have tragic results. If you fry your brain with drugs until IQ<belt size, I will judge you nine ways from Sunday and you will be unworthy of my time because you made that choice and will live with it.)
Being privy to many many different groups from business owners to âoutlaws,â âgangstersâ to clergy, âhillbilliesâ to high class ladies who regularly attend formal balls has left me knowing that you can make correlations of group behaviour but the individuals and the events between individuals must be judged seperatly.
Ive met people who looked like the dregs of society who were the most helpful and nicest people. They had a wisdom about them few have. Ive met men in business suits I wouldnt* waste water on if they were on fire. And every concivable combination between.
When it comes to defining sexism, racism, and hate speech, each case must be viewed seperatly because what is considered the norm for one group could easily repulse another.
Edit: Would to wouldnt.
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" I could say religious people are mentally ill"
And you would be banned if someone petitioned. As I mentioned in my post earlier, Eve now carries a PEGI 12 rating. While blasphemy is allowed in games rated PEGI 16, it is not allowed in games rated PEGI 12.
âThe game contains bad language. This descriptor can be found on games with a PEGI 12 (mild swearing), PEGI 16 (e.g. sexual expletives or blasphemy) or PEGI 18 rating (e.g. sexual expletives or blasphemy).â
(https://pegi.info/what-do-the-labels-mean)
At the end of the day, for eve to continue on the way it was, they would have had to give it a PEGI 18 rating which they will never do.
As an aside, Eve Online (as noted at eveonline.com) has a PEGI 12 rating and also (as noted at secure.eveonline.com) a Teen ESRB rating, along with a disclaimer that âonline interactions not rated by the ESRBâ. These two ratings carry with them two very different sets of rules. The PEGI 12 rating and what it means can be found at the link above and the Teen ESRB rating details can be found at https://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.aspx
The most notable discrepancy is that the ESRB rating for Teen starts at 13 years old, while the PEGI rating allows for a 12 year old.
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What now CCP ??
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Define hate speech and then show me the laws that make it illegal most countries don not have them, get your facts straight
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Thanks for posting the Modern Educayshun video. Hadnt seen that before. It was enjoyable to watch.
Ties right into the Hate Speech âthingyâ that was posted on the policy update. I say thingy because no one on the planet seems to have a definition for what hate speech is other than âspeech I dont likeâ. Hopefully CCP understands our concerns about jumping onto the bandwagon of having a policy against âHate Speechâ while at the same time not defining the term and while how not defining the term can easily lead to abuse by those in control of policing that term. Of course, maybe that is the point eh?
Now, saying the above, lets watch what CCP does with this. Time will give us the answer and I am hopeful CCP is as wise as I think they are.
This does bring to mind an old saying though: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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well how about YOU define hate speech and show ME a list of countries that donât have them⌠I donât have to do anything for your lazy ass
You could start by bothering to go to the wiki page for it. And finding that itâs actually a fairly sensible definition and nothing like various people here are claiming.
That is one hell of a motte and bailey argument. Yes, those things are horrible and impossible to defend. Theyâre also criminal and will see you in jail in any reasonable country, which negates the need for a game company to âpoliceâ them. Youâre using that much easier to defend position (the bailey) as a shelter from your actual position; which is preventing people from saying âmeanâ things that you donât like on the internet (the motte).
Disagreeing with people, even unpleasant disagreement where âbadâ words are exchanged, isnât âharassmentâ; It absolutely shouldnât be up to companies to determine or deal with âhate speechâ or âracismâ⌠and we all know this stupidity only goes in one direction, because I guarantee you saying â â â â about islam will be âhate speechâ but ranting about white people, christianity or even trump will be totally fine!
Absolutely no one is going to be surprised by double standards being employed here.
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