Eve Offline app updates every minute, not every 4 minutes and the stats shown in the 36 hr, 1 week, 2 weeks, etc is an average based on that time period. That doesn’t show what the largest demo-graph of the worlds population is. Hell, I log into the game at different times, not just during Prime Time for my time zone.
If you or anybody else can’t provide an Official statement from CCP showing where the largest demographic of player accounts are located worldwide, then all your talk is purely conjecture.
Also stop telling me what to do, if you post a statement and imply that it’s Official, then be prepared to back it up with proof. Otherwise, f-off.
So, you are outright denying that peak PCU each day lands at approx 2000 EU time then?
Is that what you are actually saying?
Because who cares exactly where someone lives, what matters is when they play and that is not peaked at the time you were listing. The time you listed was Western USA time I believe, at the secondary peak time, which is nowhere near Peak PCU, heck I can look at last weekend and it was barely over 50% of peak PCU.
Central European Time: 8:00 PM (20:00) equals Pacific Time: 11:00 AM (11:00)
I’ll check the Launcher Log-in stats at 11am my time which equals your EU prime time of 8pm and see if the amount of players logged-in is up around 25k.
The time I listed was when I looked at the Launcher at that moment. I’ve been working Night Shift for the past few weeks and my log-in time has been in the morning hrs from 7 to 10am Pacific Time which puts it at 4 to 7pm EU Time.
What I’m saying is that Eve Offline status app can’t reliably show which world location has the largest amount of Eve Online accounts, only CCP knows that and they haven’t released that info.
They have at a Fanfest recently I believe,
But I never made any claim about that, and it’s irrelevant to the discussion of PCU. So arguing it is trying to use a red herring to distract from you being wrong about peak PCU’s, oh, and then trying to pretend like people using actual stats were wrong.
For the past 4 or 5 years CCP hasn’t released any info on the amount of accounts from different world locations.
Actually this all started by a few people saying that players logging in alts to do the Skilling Spree tasks has no effect on the player log-in numbers to which I disagree. If it didn’t have any positive effect on log-in numbers then CCP wouldn’t keep doing the Skilling Spree. Now if you or somebody else doesn’t agree with that then so be it.
You jumped into the middle of a convo and somehow this has now turned into being about EU Prime Time having 25 to 35k players on during weekdays because supposedly that’s where the most Eve accounts are from.
I said I’ll check the Launcher at 11am my time to verify it. That’s it, end of discussion.
Why, I do believe you were the one bleating about “Don’t tell me what to do”.
Now you are the one trying to give orders…
I do believe that makes you a hypocrite… I’m so so so so surprised by this.
As for me jumping in… Try actually scrolling back and reading the conversation again, you are clearly delusional about what was being said and who jumped in. It sure doesn’t paint you in any kind of good light for debate when you can’t even remember the conversation going on.
I mean…
I do believe you were the one jumping in, without bothering to look at the already posted above that evidence to try and tell people that they were wrong about the server PCU regularly hitting 30k atm.
Yeah, I rarely ever see the Launcher show above 20k online during weekdays. Like I said, I’ll check it at 11am my time which equals EU Prime Time to verify it is indeed well above that amount.
I think the Skilling Spree helps inflate the Log-in numbers, you disagree.
Oh, I think there is plenty to discuss. Like how much of a hypocrite you are and how unable you are to acknowledge that hypocrisy in this case, even when it is clearly proven from your own posting.
The fact that you misinterpret what the skilling sprees actually achieve for a start, and insist that they magically inflate log in numbers. And insist that I said they don’t do anything, when I said they don’t have any significant effect. Those are two very different statement, I mean, of course they do ‘something’.
People who only do the skilling spree still don’t contribute in any meaningful way to the PCU, because they just are not online long enough to do so. However what does happen is people go “Well if I’m going to log in for this thing, maybe I’ll do some of these other things as well, and actually stay in EVE for a bit longer”.
It’s not the skilling spree inflating numbers though, it’s the skilling spree reminding people about what else there is to do in EVE and getting them doing those other things.
Bullsh*t, all accounts logging into the game are automatically counted on the Launcher. You’re foolish to think logging in alts to do the skilling spree doesn’t affect the log-in numbers.
What did I just say about you not bothering to read what I was saying & then arguing against something I’ve never even said. You know, a classic straw-man argument, you seem to specialise in that.
I have never said “They don’t affect login numbers”. I have said it’s not in a meaningful way because they aren’t online for long enough.
You do know PCU = Concurrent users right. If 60 people log in for 1 minute each during an hour, and they space out evenly, the PCU is only 1 for the hour, despite the fact 60 people logged in. This is what happens with people who only log in for log in & skilling spree events, especially since they tend to log them in consecutively for the most part, especially those alts that are alphas.
Ok Bobby Butthurt, let me lay some knowledge on you.
As I type this it is 08:28 and the current number logged in is 16,968. However, cos I felt like making a couple of notes so I could keep on showing you up I wrote down the logged in numbers at a couple of different times yesterday as well.
At 13:48 - 20,574
At 19:27 - 26,958
At 20:29 - 26,701
These times are not only “my time” but, as it stands at this time of year, it is also “EVE Time” so it should be more than simple for you to see what times those login numbers correspond to in your own timezone.
While this is not any sort of “exhaustive” list of data it does back up what I and others are telling you. In fact, to keep you happy Sparky I’m going to do it again today at different times. Just so I can feel even more smug than I currently do - and to be fair, that is really quite smug indeed right now.
I also wanted to quickly address this too:
Firstly, at no point did I say “nobody” was doing them. What I said was “negligible” - that means “very few” or “not a large percentage of the whole”. That is different to “none”.
Secondly, whether or not you personally “highly doubt” something has no bearing on anything at all. It is common practice for businesses - not just online games but a wide range of ‘service industry’ companies - to often run great-looking-yet-empty promotions like this for nothing more than PR purposes. They can stand there and posture about how much they offer back to their “beloved customers who matter to us in our hearts” while not actually costing themselves any notable sums.
And before you say something pithy like “Oh, I suppose you have a degree in business then?”, no it isn’t a degree but do please feel free to look up something like “common cost-effective marketing strategies”. Yw.
I’m not back in denying it i am in full operation mode against the claim that i had ‘dozens of other chars’( i know this was not said,but i bet it was meant in the subtext)…
Again you just understand what you like and are trying to accuse me of things i never said nor meant…
For CCP a 25k peak and a 25 k peak at different times of the day results in a 50k average on the server and THIS is (overdramatized) what they show you in their ‘status reports’…
This thing is nothing but fake and an easy to see-through propaganda instrument.
Yes, I certainly am to some…and you have no idea how much I can be if necessary. This internet game forum is nothing…sweetie.
Also…how do you know I’m a “sir”?..are you suggesting I am a G.I.R.L.?
Additionally, my good friend balos, you seem to have possibly made just a slight error with the English language I was using…“something-or-other” =/= “others”. aaand you are mixing me up with others as far as things said, but that is hardly unusual for you…purposely probably.
I am proud you think that of me. It is a compliment, actually.
This internet game forum is nothing…sweetie.