Punish Pirates in high sec

Napster, Kazaa were my “friends” many years ago.

my people that gank in our alliance…they do it cause the targets are not blue and are taking rocks from our people that do nothing but mine rocks

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You got any proof or

What is your definition of toxic?

That’s a lie. Just admit it and stop whining: You hate ganking in HiSec because you think that HiSec actually is “high security” and that your ships shouldn’t be blown up in HiSec.
Cry moar…

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I’d say it catches the mid-wits in the cross-fire just right.
Long may she reign.

Honestly this is when ganking is most interesting. Yeah there’s lots of opportunity to make isk from lazy or afk players, but to what end?

Ganking when used as a strategic tool is pretty neat :slight_smile:

I also know people who have financial interests in seeing ships such as Marauders, Orcas, Freighters, and such getting ganked. So at surface level it may just appear to be an empty or worthless hauler but dig a little deeper and there’s motivation beyond griefing or boredom.

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For me part of the problem is that the game gives you just the right amount of automation to hang yourself with. What do I mean by that?

Well, you can engage autopilot and then go and make a nice cup of tea, but can your ship automatically engage the frikkin shield booster when the shield reaches say 80% capacity? No it bloody can’t

That seems to beyond the capability of far future computer logic.

C’mon CCP make you mind up,
either rip out any automation (autopilot, weapon groupings, auto repeating modules, auto weapon reloading)

OR make the automation sensible and fit for the far future!!!

Its beyond future society’s logic to punish piracy and allow them to go free in their territory using all the facility’s, gates and stations.

Until you use a time machine and bring back proof that future societies wouldn’t let pirates roam free in the universe your argument has no leg to stand on.
After all, if our present societies allow terrorists to operate freely ( including mercenaries and their ilks ) arm them and train them for whatever future nefarious plans then a future with pirates roaming the galaxy isn’t so far-fetched.

Yet again, anti-geankers bringing real life in a video game… that smells of desperation.

yes because a higher society like in eve wouldnt have outlawed criminality. your arguement is based of not even half twisted truths. The world doesnt let terrorists roam free and if they did your keyboard warrior ass wouldnt be playing video games safe and sound in the comfort of your own home. Honestly the fact you are trying to argue this way is astonishing.

Yes, and in high sec CONCORD, a police like response force, does show up after a criminal action happens, and faction police actively hunts down players with -5.0 status or lower.

Your knowledge of basic game play mechanics is weak.

Low sec is like those 3rd world back water countries. Only the faction police sentry guns can be arsed to do anything about a criminal activity if its done right in front of them.

So what did you loose by a ganker that got you so tushy-troubled?

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My home station is in Sarum Prime. What was the security rating before they made the change? I’ve only been a player for a few weeks so I missed all that.

That’s the way the Trigs punish you in Pochenhell if you are too negative to them.

Hey uhhh I know you guys are deep into some discussion by now but I just want to say that I have mined in lowsec for several YEARS and have not been caught ONCE. That’s in part due to me being smart, and mining over 14.2 AU away from any gate/station, but moreso due to it being SAFER and more rewarding if you are not AFK.

I have a feeling some people do not much ELSE then mine in hisec, making “getting ganked” almost unavoidable due to being there, day in, day out, grinding away at those rocks. If you don’t diversify the ways in which you can die, you will always die the same way.

This is the basic problem with carebears. They don’t experience that in Eve, everybody and their mom loses ships in 101 ways. Something happens to them twice in week and then they think the game is unbalanced, instead of reasoning that doing the same thing over and over again enables other people to formulate a strategy against expected behavior.

And that’s why I sometimes mine in lowsec. Few people expect that I do, I can see them coming from a mile away, having to pay attention is more fun, and you get better ores.

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Being a pussy doesn’t grant you moral superiority. Developing an angsty philosophy to justify your weakness only illuminates your beta traits.

It is nearly impossible to kill someone who is prepared and aware. Take responsibility for yourself. This will help you in life as well.

You’re welcome!

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What’s astonishing is that you’re taking real-world examples to argue against the mechanics of a video game, that’s beyond hilarious, it’s sad.

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He lost his little pixelated ship and his snowflake heart will never again be mended.

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Honestly, you’re making non-diegetic arguments. Everyone is being diegetic: “It is this way, because that’s how the fiction was created, and the will of the authors of the fiction wanted it to be this way.” That’s not astonishing.

Non-diegetic arguments are like “Well [fiction] is inaccurate because [outside-of-fiction] reason.” Like the people that say “Harry Potter is so unrealistic because in real life magic is just leveraging human nature and limits of perception to be deceptive & illusory.” No duh, that’s the point of a work of fiction: escape reality. Trying treat a non-Diegetic argument seriously is what’s astonishing. To put it another way: your shoehorning of reality into the fiction that is Eve is silly, because Eve isn’t a simulation of reality. For one, as a space game, there’s a hell of a lot of realistic space physics missing, which seems way more fundamental of a problem than anything you’re talking about. If you don’t like the work of fiction, then don’t engage, and find a work a fiction you do enjoy.

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Just how much heart faintness could possibly be created by going round in a group of 40 and zapping defenceless Procurers that can’t fight back ? Gotta love the way the most cowardly profession in all of Eve portrays itself as if brave Viking warriors…and tries to lecture to everyone else about toughness and resilience. There’s more BS on these forums than there is ore in all of Eve.

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The problem is that people want to have their cake and eat it. When some aspect and terminology of real life suits their gameplay, they are only too happy to draw comparisons. Pirates, for example. But the minute the analogy runs into difficulty or lacks defencibility in some aspect…you get the ’ oh…but we’re in Harry Potter land and can wave things away with a magic wand '. This hybrid of the real and the imaginary morphs depending on who is being spoken to and what argument is being made.