Quantum Cores - Updates begin 8 September

If only the NPC stations did not have through-the-roof taxes that essentially nuke all your profits into nonexistence…

If you want to make any profit by doing for example industry, you are required to own a structure or use a public one (the number of these will get drastically reduced after this goes live).

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Don’t anchor a structure, then your small corp won’t be wardec eligible. Easy answer here, friendo.

So now all my low sec r16 moons that were hardly worth anything to begin with are now completely worthless? r8s were already worth so little they might as well have been in HS and now 16s are the same. This feels like we are taking a step back to how it used to be. I get the idea but you should have thought this out more, maybe added split tiers of structures for different sec status Ill be taking down most of my stations now.

So yep, small groups can’t play in the sandbox anymore without being beholden or part of a larger bloc.

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This change makes a lot of sense. The main losers are the ones who are spamming structures who now are forced to include loot with minimal effect on smaller groups who’ll have no problem paying a bit more for the core in their medium structures. Though groups just big enough to afford XL structures are kinda boned by this.

Anchoring a structure and structure ownership is something that every group big or small, no matter what space you live in have to take into account the risk associated with having said structures. Things they should consider would be things such as:

Can I effectively defend the structure?

If I can’t, can I afford to relocate and replace the strucutre.

What impact will being wardec eligible have on my members.

There is Risk/Reward in every aspect of this game. Structure ownership is most definately one of them. I am a HS wardeccer. No matter where you are in this game there is always a bigger fish. Even GSF being one of the largest and mightiest groups is under heavy siege against a multitude of groups. The drop of this Quantum Core, is it nice for someone like me? Yes, but this isnt exactly game changing. When I come onto a hostile grid there’s chances that I lose my ships and I typically have to risk those ships 3 times per structure. Losing a single ship sometimes that Raitaru core wont even cover the cost of it. I think this will promote more fighting in the game, increase isk sinks and will make for more fun gameplay.

I like the change but as with every change this is going to make it harder on smaller entities and push more people into bigger blocs again because it’s getting way and way harder to exist as small entities in eve unless you want to ship spin in Highsec…

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scoots is a troll ignore him!

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So if I’m a small corp and these can’t be built then my destiny is to get war dec’d and farmed by some null alliance so they can build their citadels for at a 60% discount to everyone who can’t go bashing themselves…

Obviously that means no more small fish, if you want to hold stations you gotta have a bat phone or just be batman. great…

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New state of lack of caring. Not even a single sentence that says what is going to happen. Great work. Much wasted space. Very appreciated.

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Right assimilate or die!

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Way too overpriced modules…

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Is there any word on them showing up in ship scan windows

This is a good change. I really like the “ante” mechanic of increased value and guaranteed drops as a way to reduce structure and incentivize structure bashes. That said, I see 2 problems with the feature as it’s been announced, and hopefully these will be patched out.

  1. Create blueprints for quantum cores so players have another option besides going to NPCs. Until now we’ve been able to say that all the stuff in space was created by players, but with this change a huge amount of that value will really just bought from NPCs. It’s fine to have NPCs involved in the economy, but they shouldn’t dominate it in this way. This system might be a good isk sink in the short term, but eventually there will be a similar number of these sold by attackers as bought by defenders with a minimal net effect. However, because there’s both a price floor and ceiling, along with player market friction, I don’t know that we’ll even see them sold between players (except maybe in regional markets).

  2. This change favors defenders who get their structures in place before Oct 13. Areas that have lots of structure spam before this date will only put cores in actually useful structures, but unless you need tethering they’re likely to just leave the cores out. However, anyone attacking those defenders will have to immediately start putting ante into their forward operating bases. I understand wanting to protect existing structures, especially in the middle of a war, but there needs to eventually be a reason coercing owners of existing structures to put cores in those structures, or you’ll just be cementing existing power blocks. My fix would be that after April, structures without cores go into low power mode.

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What a complete waste of development resources.

This makes structures less accessible to smaller entities, creates a massive ISK sink (that all players should be against as it artificially raises the price of everything), and what? provides loot to the leadership of alliances that bash structures? players in fleets don’t get the loot, the leadership does. This does nothing to motivate the “grunts” of an alliance to continue bashing structures.

Players need to wake up and understand that all of these changes since CCP was purchased by Pearl Abyss are in an effort to make the game more costly to participate in as players and more profitable for Pearl.

NONE OF THIS IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST, STOP CHEERING AND START PROTESTING

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Technically, it doesnt.

If it did, Id probably be in favour of it tbh

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If the cores come from NPC corps and not players, that ISK is gone forever, how is this not a sink?

Because the NPCs buy it back. Because you can sell it to players (I assume?)

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The buy back price is less than the sell price, the difference is lost forever?

Has that been confirmed?