So what you are saying is that he has no right to play casually at times? Fair enough, but be careful what you wish for.
That change in itself makes asset safety no longer a trust worthy mechanic, it has no issue for those that are active at this point, but those who are on a break are likely to suffer massive loss that could drive them from the game, like this poor chap. I think he was not paranoid or cynical enough which to many of the posters in this thread makes him not suitable to be an Eve player.
And quite a few griefers were caught by this. I just wish that CCP had done something like move all the stuff on players that were no longer active as a batch job. I am not a fan of retroactive actions that catch out people like this, especially in terms of a game that hooks back so many players, it is a bad idea, period.
Oh dear, how sad, nvm. If u have been playing that long then you know to keep anything of real value in an NPC station. Idiot.
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They maybe also put a way into the game for alliance-leaders to loot the members assets… There is a warning but I think alliances can now drop all assets from a structure:
They take out the fuel and unanchor the structure once it’s unfueled. I would think this would lead to no asset safety. They could alternatively shoot it in a single timer and loot everything. Noone else would know, when the fuel was taken out.
Um, even before the patch it was possible to kill a structure in two weeks (and yes yours is a juicy target). The patch only made it easier. So you can’t only blame CCP for your loss.
The thing is I don’t care about the structure itself and never did.
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Many people have been very happy looting what dropped. Sacrifice of one made many capsuleer lifes easier.
Thank you for not logging in and keeping hordes entertained.
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I highly doubt this change will lead to more activity in eve going forward. Most people in shoes similar to mine will stop playing. Less people online mean less people to shoot for pvpers. I actually consider myself to be a pvper, but having 2-3 weeks of loot pinatas won’t compensate for months of years of people not coming back, because all their stuff is gone. Additionally there is now a precident, that you can never actually take a full break from the game without risking everything. Which change could be next? Do you really want to commit to creating something in this enviroment?
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You can take a full break, only one thing is having stuff in NPC station.
You only havent got the information soon enough. Or maybe CCP should have got more time between announcement and change, with such important thing.
They shoot themselves too.
The amount of removed structures will be gradually lower anyway. And not everybody will quit like you. You arent everybody. Some people will see they had lost stuff and will want to rebuild it, producers will be happy.
That doesn’t add up, you’re trying to deflect away your own laziness and mistake. As said before it’s not that you didn’t have the chance or time to avoid this problem, you simply forgot or couldn’t be bothered. You also “forgot” and couldn’t be bothered to read any news, Dev blogs or launcher messages.
THAT is the situation, not “I really cared about my stuff but I didn’t want that citadel anyway, you know the one that had my stuff. I’ve been wronged by CCP and there was nothing I could do about it”.
You could, CCP gave you ample up front means to learn about it and act on that. You just chose not to act on it, anything else or more is just hubris.
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untill CCP decides to change that over span of merely a month… That’s the point in here isn’t it?
It does add up if You actually read the whole first post of this thread - OP is not upset that his abzel was blown up in one sitting, he is upset that asset safety was switched of instantly as structure ran out of fuel costing him all his stuff.
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Yes, because he wasn’t using that thing to do his industry stuff. Because that would be annoying, wouldn’t it. It would cancel his jobs, it would cost him time, money and annoyance. No he really didn’t care about losing it.
In fact he was fine with it, expected it. He planned for it even because, you know, he didn’t care for it. Glad you cleared that up.
Minor annoyance considering to huge base of BPO’s he claims to have researched that went in flames. And he was prepared for facing this minor annoyance. Which part of that You fail to understand?
Which part of “of course he cared for his citadel as it was his base of operations and income, how dumb must you be to buy into the ‘yeah I didn’t want that thing anyway so I didn’t fuel it’ as an explanation for his lazy mistake” do you fail to accept and admit to.
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Income? I did not actually generate income from this. I just wanted to have a full set of fully researched BPOs together and some copies for when I produce again.
Any income I would have derived from selling the BPCs was put in more BPOs anyway. With the late nerfs to caps, supers and titans BPCs probably wouldn’t sell anyway. Even if they did, we are talking about tiny amounts of isk.
This was more of me having a collectors binder with cool stamps then anything else. Why would I care, if I have to buy a new binder? Or use a free, safe, public binder?
Imagine you spent 8 years of work and money to amass a collection of figurines, stamps, cards, gemstones or drawings. Yes it’s a waste of time, but you are proud of your collection.
Then the government decides: If you are on vacation, anyone is allowed to go to your house and take them. And they do that while you are actually on your 2 week break. And someone actually comes and takes your collection. Wouldn’t you be pissed? You could have just put it into a bank instead. You didn’t know the government would implement stupid, arbitrary policies like that.
Yes, someone stole the garbage (Citadel) from your dumpster too, but that has always been up for graps. Yes you accidently had some value in that dumpster and lost that… but you don’t care. You just lost the collection you have built over 8 years.
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There is a big difference. The player owned structures were always removable, easier on not, but they were not always going to be in space, if some player wants hard to remove them.
NPC stations were never removed. They are the backbone of game, with agents and militia offices. NPC stations are a lot more important than player structures.
So CCP removing NPC structures would be really silly.
Watch them (:
CCP isnt so dumb. Players always had things to shoot at, without NPC stations being destructible.
If they would remove invulnerability of NPC stations, they would really be breaking the rules.
POS stations were always destructible, so it was only a slight adjustment.
And one many were championing right from the beginning.
Rather depends how many there are in ‘shoes similar to yours’ - if it’s 10,000 there may well be cause for concern; but if it’s just 10, not so much…