Logged in today, and realized that billions of assets I had in a player structure are all now just gone. My buddy I play with also lost everything. Assuming that asset safety would prevent me from losing my stuff was a fatal mistake. All of my researched blueprints: gone. My missiles I was stockpiling to sell all at once: gone. Several of my ships: gone. My stash of blueprint copies: gone.
Why is this possible? I cannot describe the negativity I feel towards EVE, CCP and myself right now. I feel personally betrayed by this game for having months of effort washed away because I did not log in for 2 days. Are player structures really intended to be a bait and switch? Does the community want this to be the case?
Iâve played the game for a few years now, and I understand that set backs and losses are a part of the game. You learn by making mistakes. I understand youâre expected to put this game first before anything else, but thatâs supposed to be because of your Corp, not because of CCP. This just feels like Iâve been cheated. Like Iâve been wronged by the developers of the game. Tricked. Itâs an awful feeling.
EDIT: Thanks for the replies, everyone. I feel a lot better reading them. Please use this story as a lesson: Do not store anything in player structures!
If it was a structure in a wormhole, then this is a normal mechanic that you should have expected, if not, open the assets window and click on the third tab, a surprise awaits you there.
Sure, it feels pretty bad to lose a bunch of stuff. Letâs be honest here though (in fact you already are because you included âyourselfâ in the negativity) - loss of a player citadel and the contents inside it arenât exactly deep secrets. You pretty much knew your stuff was at risk as soon as you put it in a player structure.
EVE has choices, and one of the most common ones is âconvenience vs. securityâ. Any player owned structure is a convenience asset which youâre trading off against the security of an NPC station. This isnât about putting the game ahead of anything else, or being cheated or tricked. This is a well known risk that you chose for the convenience or ease of access, and didnât monitor closely enough to keep your assets safe.
There may have been asset warning notifications you missed. Or your items may be in asset safety nearby after a short wait (although IIRC youâll have to pay 15% tax to retrieve them). Or you may simply have been caught at a bad time, or by using a structure that somebody allowed to go unpowered.
Iâm sympathetic to the feelings of anger, frustration, and loss. Weâve all experienced that. Just be aware that more than half that anger is probably at yourself, for brushing off something you knew was a risk but chose to do anyway.
You failed to stick to the most basic of ârulesâ that even newbies in rookie channel learn very early on: Donât put all your eggs in one basket. Also you chose to be in a small mostly inactive corp with probably just alts; no one to help, rely on, explain/teach you or warn you. This is an MMO, you made your choices.
Learn from it, improve and go at it again. Andd perhaps this time learn about stuff preemptively so you donât have to learn it the hard way.
imo, CCP should get rid of asset safety. The only places your assets should be safe, are in npc structures. And possibly not even there if itâs possible to destroy them.
As for the loss, even as emotionally devastating as it is, think of it as a cheap loss. If something on this scale happened in the real world, it could be much worse for you. In a game, the worst that can happen is you lose your stuff⌠in the real world (depending on the legal framework youâre under) you can be held liable for the losses that other people suffered, which you may never be able to reimburse.
Always make sure you know the rules youâre working with before engaging.
Ultimately, I encourage you to chin up and go back at it. If you can bounce back from losses like this, it will make you invincible, both in game, and in the real world.
I had a bunch of stuff in a player structure that is now gone, and none of my assets went to safety. Not sure what happened to the structure but it was just outside Jita. I had 2 days notice to get my stuff but that was like a week ago.
I agree, having the âAsset Safetyâ tab removed completely would help with the confusion. I made an assumption that my stuff would be protected (Iâve gotten things from asset safety before) and feel burned because I had no idea I was just going to lose my stuff.
Sucks OP, but loss is the best teacher. If you lost X Billion ISK then the best thing to do is start reflecting and learning X Billion ISK worth of lessons.
Hereâs four to get you started:
Structures and Abandoned State
Setting up a structure anywhere near Jita
Not using one of the many tools available to get notifications for your structure
Putting everything into the structure
Remember, loss isnât failure. Giving up or refusing to learn after a loss is, though.
