Re-named: I lost my Azbel with my entire life’s work in the 2 weeks between logging in

Ask rather what is probable, how probable and why.

1 Like

I like how people go to the absurd.

“OMG NPC STATIONS ARE NEXT…”

As much as it was dick move by CCP, I agree with the abandoned state, but don’t think it was fair to people that left the game for a long time. Either way, this is done. Just get on with it already. People are arguing about stuff that already happened. There no changing it now.

1 Like

I always work with probabilities, they only tell you what the most likely scenario is. Doesn’t mean that what you deduce will actually happen.

A company that removes players in-game items that they had paid for, without any reasonable notification would have not been high on the probability list as it’s such a silly thing to do.

The CCP presenter at Eve Vegas came right out and said they were thinking about permadeath being somehow possible in the future, maybe.

That would be one way to kill this game off.

1 Like

OP
as said by others, CCP announced the change at least one month before. You did not see it?whereas you “regularly log in”? that’s your fault

they posted it on THIS forum on the 24th of april…

3 Likes

The thing is, its players who put up things for removals, and players removed them. Like always was the case…

And notifications were actually issued, just the player didnt really care about all his stuff. Emerging from a state of unjustified ignorance to find out that everything was lost.

I see one player being emotional and trying to blame everyone but not him. Lets not justify the ignorance of a player who put 6000€+ into the game. U know what they say about not being wise and money held.

1 Like

Actually the issue is not the structure but the contents within the structure, which were deemed as being safe if anything happened to the structure.

There will be people taking a break from the game, be it they’re burnt out on EVE, people in the forces which may not be able to play at the moment other RL issues. There’s no guarantee they were able to see the notifications. Why do they need to keep looking at the web page when CCP had said their stuff is safe.

Like I said the problem is not the structures it’s the fact CCP changed the status on the goods inside the structures.

I have flipped my position on this issue. Even though OP messed up and did not fuel his Azbel, I believe there should be a 30 or 60 day grace period for those players just returning or who only play casually, where they can petition and somehow get compensation for lost assets. Some say CCP sent out notifications to players, but I think we can all agree CCP communication is far from A+.

Also, since this is the “chaos period”, let’s go a step further with asset safety. Remove ALL asset safety for fueled stations in null sec and reduce asset safety to 50% for destroyed low sec stations that run at full power.

There are some null players on here giving OP a hard time, deserved or not. So what do you say Null sec elite, superstar pvpers, are you ready to put your assets on the line or are you ready to shut up? Let’s go CCP and make this happen!

2 Likes

The CCP can be blamed only for putting asset safety in the player owned structures for the first place. Removing it was a good decision, and time was given for players who care to know about it.

OP was not really playing much anyway, just keeping things. One login per month…

Lets celebrate amount of stuff that was reclaimed from structure. :partying_face:

3 Likes

Problem is once they deemed it as safe it becomes unsafe to then remove it.

What they should have done was to notify about 6 months in advance, on the forums, login screen and send emails to notify people of the intended change. At least that way they would have made a real attempt to notify everyone.

I looked back. CCP sent me TWO notifcations for Fanfest, and 0 related to removing asset safety.

Even the notices that CCP did send out were stupid - they said “We are changing vulnerability states for structures” not “We are disabling asset safety under some circumstances”

1 Like

The state of structure would need to be controlled by players anyway, not CCP. 6 months, or 3 weeks, doesnt make much of a difference with that. So lets celebrate many people gaining lot of stuff. :ok_hand:

3 Likes

I’m starting to wonder about you.

The structure is irrelevant it’s the goods inside that matter. If the goods inside are deemed safe, then anyone having to have a break for whatever reason will not be worrying about the structure as they know they might lose it, but they won’t be expecting to lose the goods inside.

Yes, it was irrelevant enough.

1 Like

Don’t anchor what you cant afford to lose.

1 Like

I don’t get this thread and the complaints about the rules change. It would have been completely possible to kill his structure with a regular wardec and all the timers in the time window he was away.

And if that was the reason his stuff blew up he would probably still come here and blame everyone else for his own reckless behavior (putting all eggs in one basket).

3 Likes

Amen.