Resource Redistribution Update

For all you folks complaining about the game being ruined and you lives being over… can I have your stuff?

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I have no kills in HS.
I have some kills in LS from when I was living there, but no miners.
I have kills in NS and WH, including miners, shuttles, pods, titans, anything…
NS and WH is fair game.
HS should stay HS… Or make all the space NS and that’s it…

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It is staying highsec. It’s just highsec that might have some additional players in it.

(Or maybe it won’t. Maybe nullsec groups decide that power projection is expensive and difficult and they’d rather just farm their home regions and buy the missing minerals on the market.)

NS and WH is fair game.

And so is highsec. This is the problem you’re stuck on, you can’t get it through your head that it’s massive hypocrisy for you to be fine with killing everything you encounter and not asking permission when you’re in your preferred region but insist on being able to opt out of PvP whenever you feel like being safe.

Because there is a difference between those 4 zones, different rules applies to each.
HS is not fair game. That’s the safe zone…
LS is a grey line, you are even getting a warning when jumping in a sec system under 0.5. And you lose security standings when shooting without provocation.
NS and WH is the space without laws.
You are either plain stupid or troll… I will let you choose.

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Ok? None of those rules are changing here, what’s your point? If anything this change is adding more differences between the regions.

HS is not fair game. That’s the safe zone…

Utter nonsense. Highsec has never offered 100% safety, only relatively higher safety compared to elsewhere. And it continues to do that.

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Got a question do you plan an adjusting the mining voulume on the SOV-Space Ore Sites to maintain and to get ?
Actual you need to mine a volume of 1.5 mil to get a level 1 Ore belt.
With the removeal of the “heavy” ores from the SOV-Space Astroid belts there is not enough Volume in the system to reach the needed amount.

This might be an issue for new alliance that want to get SOV-Space and raise systems for mining.

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You do understand that this update does not grab CCP cash right?
It’s been explained multiple times in this thread but basically this update will not cause more people to buy plex from CCP to sell, if anything it is more likely to decrease it.

You do understand that whatever you say is total crap to me, right ?
How many different ways do I have to show you that I don’t give a flyin’ F- about your opinion ?

You shills claim loud and clear that you don’t care about anybody leaving the game but here you are, day after day - hour after hour - responding to people you don’t care leave or stay.
Go play your boring childish pew-pew and leave me to conduct my research into the potential exponential number of people who will stop playing just based on this thread.
I’m busy here ! I don’t have the time to answer every lolly-daffy EVE fanboy who cheers at every brain fart that CCP lets out with each nerf… I’m doing science here dammit !

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We are bums. Or at least I am. A space bum. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

Most of my money these last few weeks has been from scavenging others’ space trash. If I was in a position to also scavenge from players leaving the game, then why not?

Ah, so you are doing science but ignoring facts…
You must be an excellent scientist.

Also even if every single post in this thread was a unique player, no more than 1000 people would be leaving EVE based on this thread. Probably a lot less than that in fact given how many people have posted more than once and how some seem to use alts to post as well. Placed in context to EVE’s probable player player base of around 250,000 unique players (Estimated for sure, using the analysis of financials done and CCP having given a rough number of average accounts per player.) Even if we take 1000 as leaving, that gives us 0.4% of EVE’s player base leaving. If we take a more realistic number of 100 from this thread actually leaving… 0.04%.

P.S. LOL, Calling me a shill, you clearly don’t bother reading things.

Thanks for clearing that out.

No no no… I’m ignoring YOUR facts and the facts of those who’ll defend a greedy corporation tooth and nail to the end of a game that used to be interesting. Get it right.

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Facts don’t change because you don’t like them or the person they are from.

And the facts are that this update is not about increasing PLEX sales, if it has an impact on them it will actually decrease plex sales.

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You have no facts, just opinions, and not even interesting opinions.
How can you have facts when the devs themselves don’t even know where they’re going with this change except the fact that they’re alienating solo players?

You been saying that for a week.
Saying something over and over again doesn’t make it true.
Saying something louder than another also doesn’t make it true.

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That child was me.

You were vulgar and disrespectful to women. If you have any problem with that, you can meet me round the back of the bike sheds at 4 o’clock. (Now that’s childish.)

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Actually, they are going to increase the sale of PLEX by lowering their buying power… At least at the beginning, until the price of PLEX in ISK is going to go up in order to compensate for the inflation. It’s pure economy… The price of ships will increase because of the increase in the price of minerals. Because a lot of orders are put for a long time, a lot of people are not going change the price. That means that if now 100 PLEX = 263M ISK = 1 Domi (at Jita price), just a 10% increase in the price of minerals will change that equation to 110 PLEX = 289M = 1 Domi (at Jita price). This will increase the sale of PLEX in order to cover the value deficit until 100 PLEX = 289M = 1 Domi (at Jita price).

What inflation? There is not going to be inflation as there is nothing to cause it. Ship prices going up because of drop in supply is not inflation, it is a function of supply & demand. And plex will not follow ship prices since it isn’t made with minerals. Inflation is caused when too much isk enters the economy without a match in consumption of that isk on the market. (Roughly speaking, I’m sure some pedant economist might tell me I’m wrong in details)
If anything there will be deflation which will lower the isk you get for your plex because the market can’t support your high PLEX price.
If people buy more plex like you suggest, this will also drop the PLEX price due to an increase in supply… which then leads to people not buying PLEX because it isn’t worth as much and they would rather just farm the isk instead.
So the end result in all plausible scenarios is either neutral price for PLEX or a drop in price for PLEX, which then causes either no change to PLEX buying or a decrease in PLEX buying.

You should check what inflation means: price inflation is a general rise in price level relative to available goods resulting in a substantial and continuing drop in purchasing power in an economy over a period of time.
The PLEX prices (in ISK) are going to go up in order to keep the same purchasing power => The PLEX prices are going to go up in ISK. Until that will happen and the economy will stabilize by the increase of sale of PLEX with real currency will increase in order to mitigate the decline in value.
Go learn some economics please…

Which is not what happens if mineral prices increase. Mineral prices are not the whole of the market, therefore only the portions of the market which are affected by supply & demand of minerals will move. Meaning you may have a drop in purchasing power relative to certain goods, but not relative to others. Which does not fit the definition you just posted.

No, they won’t. Because there is not going to be more isk generated in the economy. That would be actual inflation (People predicting gloom in this thread are generally predicting everyone will earn less isk even). So with no more isk available to buy your plex, PLEX prices can’t rise from inflationary means.
Now you might buy more plex to grab a larger market share of the PLEX market to get your larger amount of isk you want… but that causes an increase in PLEX on the market (Temporarily) which changes the Supply & Demand curve… and results in a drop of PLEX prices.
Drop of PLEX prices then causes a new drop in supply of course, as people have their own value points below which they won’t buy PLEX, and the PLEX market will rapidly stabilise, likely at a lower value of ISK, and likely less PLEX being bought as well.