At 180m3/s, that’s 190,693,088,343 years. But that’s what happens when you’re dealing with 1.0832069e+21 m3!
So to do it in 20 years, we only need 10 billion rorquals mining 24/7!
Yeah that’s about the maths I thought, and I figured you had the max yield numbers handy 
But you’re wrong. And you’re wrong because you’re conflating real-world stock trading with EVE’s markets, when the two aren’t at all the same.
It’s not that I’m dishonest. It’s that you just don’t understand what the hell you’re talking about.
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dude.null sec power blocks can easly find way to get high sec mineral. you have fleets you have teams you can organize anything well and good. You can companse price jumps. but regular player cant. We cant fight nullsec power blocks at high we already saw at Trig invasions… so plz just shut up. you are in strongest group. you dont have right whine.
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That’s 5 excavators w/3 capital drone mining rigs (2 IIs, 1 I), at a theoretical 0m travel needed… so yeah, not really much of a way to increase it past there.
you only say you are wrong. dont explain any mechanics againts my ideas… I willnt reply you more. no need empty efforts to dishnonest persons…
You didn’t see anything in those invasions. What, a few Ferox fleets? Corms? Heh.
Because your ideas aren’t grounded in mechanics. EVE’s market is not a banking system. It is not a stock market. It is not a commodities futures market. You keep trying to ground your interpretation in how real-world international trading works, and that’s not how EVE’s market works. At all.
When Aryth and others manipulate the market, they’re not doing it via real-world trading algorithms. They’re doing it by manipulating people. They create an impression, and you yahoos go running after the shiny red dot on the wall, while they laugh.
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- Mineral income from refining items to increase
Did anyone notice this? I have used this method for a long time and have amassed lots, so these changes don’t affect me in a negative way.
It’s important not to restrict yourself to one type of gameplay in Eve, as it looks like the strictly mining role will be replaced with a miner/missioner/loot/refine role all rolled into one.
For me Eve online has always been about adapting to the environment, I am excited to see how the players that remain will cope with this. I hope to see some highsec corps setting up mining operations in Stain, will also be cool to see mining corps become missioning corps and work together to provide ships for members through loot refining.
That very comment is why people are buying up tons of stuff on the market and hording it to refine it later only to find that the price will drop and they will loose money xD.
… and dying en masse to the people already living there.
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Not if they use scouts with Prospect mining ships…oh wait I forgot…all of you are obsessed with isk/ore per hour instead of playing for fun and challenge so many wont bother.
Hardly anyone in Stain these days, partly why I’m excited to see if more people come.
not for long
For someone like me who 99% of the time has to do things on his own these changes kill the game for me. There was always risk… but now… the risk is far far heavier than the rewards.
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What is it you do in Eve?
I remember when they nerfed refining loot, I adapted and went even deeper under the radar to avoid loss.
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Sorry, was thinking of banking panics prior to such insurance policies. Yes, running to get your money today is rather silly given the insurance schemes. Back in 1930 or earlier it made much more sense.
Yes, this I can agree with. And I think many people often do anthropomorphize groups which is why they often get things so wrong.
No, that’s not fair. Nevyn knows quite a bit. And he does understand the economics in game better than most. And he does come to discussions with the view of making things better. He may not always be correct, which goes for all of us, but he’s a good guy.
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thanks for your very important! support to Nevy. now everybody plz applaud Teckos_Pech wise words… 
hes a great buddy of Nevy.
stop joking. i already explain well. you can ignore you can be cheap advocate but at the end it willnt change truth.
Actually most of the time Teckos & I are madly arguing with each other on opposite sides.
now i understand better. you and nevy become like husband and wife… argue each other but solid defance againts outside 
again i am at same spot i already explain mechanics behind my ideas. no need more explanation. any body can understand this.
This is great. I hope Orca mining will become profitable enough, that I finally get back its purchase price.
Mission loot is also great mineral gain.