Resource Redistribution Update

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1722

Hate to say it but I have had docs go inside of me to ‘take a look’ and ‘decide what we will take out once we are in there’ I have been on the Operating table making jokes about whether I would wake up with everything or most things still attached.

Cancer is weird.

and hell yes, some docs have arrogant down to a T

But I digress. You have been arguing this a lot in the thread and I have liked a lot of what you had to say. This is not Econ 101 but then Eve never was that simple. This is why Universities have sent grad students to study OUR economy, right? So when CCP decides to make adjustments? I do not think ANYONE (including them) knows for sure what will happen. I mainly ask them for what the goal is, not the procedure. What the timeline is for knowing if it doing what they hoped for and how will we know the success or failure. THESE are the sort of questions that I ask.

I am a big fan of scientific method.

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1723

Redistribution was exactly what I was talking about.

1724

I would be interested in any fits you want to share.

1725

No, I’m still having fun designing fleet doctrines for use in campaigns that take a few months to execute and leave the strategic situation in null changed.

Mining, like pointing out stupidity on the forums, is just something to pass the time. :wink:

Yeah, but that’s generally considered a very extreme situation, and one the doctors don’t like to get into. And while yes, some doctors are arrogant as hell, they generally don’t put on their ‘And the part of me shall be played by Benedict Cumberbatch with script-direction of ‘dude, really dick it up, hey?’’ faces on when trying to convince someone that yes, they’re capable of not getting you killed. Note the ‘making jokes’ part of your experience.

Right. And I totally get that. But you know, when we asked, they told we’re not allowed to know the goal, because if we know, they have to change it. As for the rest… once again:

They insist they have it all planned out, and have for almost a year.

That insistence right there? That’s them acting like yes, they know what will happen. If you don’t know what’s going to happen, you can’t plan your moves a year ahead of time. At best, you can come up with some general guiding principles and roll with the changes as best you can.

But fully 50% of what they’re telling us they’re doing? It’s not ‘we’re rolling with it and trying to get to where we think things should be’. It’s ‘we have this all planned since before we made the first changes last December’.

The other half? Yeah, the other half is ‘we’ve got a direction, and we’re just surfing here trying to get to there’.

But both of those things cannot be true, Mike.

You can’t have a detailed, multi-year plan, and be making it up as you go. That’s not how plans work. If you’ve gotta make it up and adapt, you’re throwing out bits of the plan every time you have to adapt. So that’s not a plan.

Claiming it is, claiming the plan is all worked out and detailed and very well-thought out, but all of it might have to get thrown out, but trust us, the plan is totally worked out, the way all three of them did on that stream? That’s lying, Mike.

I’m a big fan of the scientific method, too. I’m also a big fan of not being lied to, or jerked around. And I really feel like that’s what they spent an hour doing there.

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1726

Dutch Vanderlay also said many times…"Trust me Arthur, I …HAVE…A PLAN! P

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1727

The hisec miners just have to mine more of what’s there and exchange it for whatever is not there. Traders will bring minerals to hisec and do good trade.

Alternatively take some days to head to null and low and ninja mine. Also you can get a few guys and mission/loot. Eve is still playable. HTFU.

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1728

Or the null bloc’s will form highsec alt corps to mine/bot and ship it back home.

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1729

If that happens then awesome. But, the kingpins living in low and null imo as a noob here, wont pay a bloody cent for what they can take for themselves and will run right over high sec and take what they really need. It’s bye bye to a functioning high sec condition as it is now.

It seems to me that this new dev team really cant stomach high sec non pvp players doing their thing and somewhat prospering.
I guess time will tell

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1730

We really don’t care about you enough to run right over you. Some of us will do some mining in highsec. The rest will just buy crap in Jita and have it shipped out.

High-Sec miners will be fine. High-sec builders, on the other hand, might get seriously shafted by reduced availability of some minerals, because only the surpluses will get to Jita.

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1731

What is easier? Move and setup new mining operations in highsec or just pay someone to do it for you?

Not everyone has this extreme need to gather all production resources themselves.

1732

No one said you cared about high sec players, nor do they want your care one bit…if you read what was stated…its the high sec focused ore itself you do care about.

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1733

Fit some tank. Fit RSB on porpoise which have bonuses. Fit some tackle and maybe an ewar mod or two to mess with kiters. Enjoy. These aren’t hard or complex fits.

1734

The blog states this update is being launched mid October. Basically 3 weeks from now. That means they’ve already worked up these changes. Between their twitch show and the fact they didn’t care for CSM input means this is in fact coming out live in this format. Also, it’s very unlikely they will make any real changes since this looks like a power play and their collective ego is on the line. Lastly, null alliances will do great in this environment. They alone have the resources to capitalize on this. They have the organization, manpower and equipment to absolutely crush hs mining (CODE. should be a bit concerned about who is coming to their neighborhood) and overwhelm ls mining. There’s really nothing stopping them from full market control since this could give them control of production in EVE overall.

Some feel there will be little impact while other fear the worst case scenario. I believe the impact will be large and quite negative. I don’t believe it will net the results they think it will but lets hope this doesn’t turn into the final push to total stagnation.

Given the rate CCP “adjusts” EVE, we’ll probably be stuck like this for a few years.

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1735

Right, and we don’t care how it gets to us. You’re the one saying we’ll ‘run right over highsec’. Why would we, if we can just buy it?

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1736

Well, I thought null would mine their own just to cut out the middle man, but I see your point.

1737

Agreed, they will totally crush HS and any thought they will just buy it from the players they detest most that garden party about in HS is …just lol

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1738

If that’s what they wanted, they could just do it now.

In fact, it would be easier to put in motion the plan you just described right now than it will be after the update.

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make with the Null-sec bloc Boogeyman.

Yeah, well, if they make an organised move to control market, they have the Manpower to do it.

But this have nothing to do with this update. They could just do it tomorrow morning.

1739

Some of us will. I’ll do some highsec mining. Why not? Mining’s already a thing I do when I want to just tune out for a bit. And in highsec, it’ll be profitable [if Isogen and Zydrine keep going up, it’ll be insanely profitable, too!], and I won’t have to worry about getting shot. Seriously, if someone’s coming after a bunch of Skiffs and an Orca in highsec, I’m just gonna fire up the RSBs and ignore them while CONCORD kills them all.

But most of us? Nah. Just throw money at it.

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1740

Tritanium is not yet only in high sec now though right?

But now that they know it will be, that take over will begin to occur and has already started

1741

You seriously overestimate how much effort most of us are willing to put into an activity we do precisely because it’s low-effort. If I didn’t already have a high-sec mining corp I just need to reactivate, I wouldn’t be doing it, either. :stuck_out_tongue: