Apologize to them for what? For saying that they said a bunch of absolutely stupid crap on their stream? They did.
For saying that the large blocs will, no matter what CCP does, figure out the best ways to exploit the changes and run rampant to a degree they’re neither expecting nor intending? We will.
What exactly do you think I should be apologizing to them for?
Not sure if someone has mentioned this already but apparently the minor victory systems on the test server are restored back to normal systems.
Had anyone else seen this and can confirm?
Apologize for an overly crazed opposition to a minor game change.
I can’t wait to see what exciting pvp content this will create. I hope ccp sees it through. I see myself continuing to play if ccp keeps doing awesome changes like this.
Minor? Can you share what you’ve been smoking?
95% of people in highsec will stay in highsec and mine whatever is there.
Only the medium to large corps/alliances will attempt to venture into lowsec and most of those probably already do so I’m not sure what extra PvP you think you will get
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If CCP want highsec miners to lose ships they need to do it in highsec simple as that.
Yeah everyone said the same stuff when moon mining was changed. Again when broker relations changed. The game hasn’t been broken.
Pvp will happen because null sec or low sec groups will need to mine low sec. When you have miners, you have defense fleets.
It might create more PvP between nullsec and lowsec as each side has to now find the minerals they have lost from the areas they control.
But it won’t affect highsec much.
Lack of production from smaller groups will push up the price of ships and the minerals that highsec folks mine become worth more and therefore no reason to go into lowsec
Yeah I agree. Personally I don’t want to kill newbs coming from high sec. I want null sec rorquals 
As for me, miners and productions people should boycott CCP.
Cancel subscription and do not pay CCP around 3 months.
And also do not sell ore, minerals and ships at EVE market.
Maybe after that CCP will respect the opinion of the players.
And let’s see what says PVP pilots when his ships price will rise in 10-20 times.
I don’t have the quote, but CCP has already said leave, you will be back.
I honestly don’t understand why a miner would be upset. Please explain. My view is that mining rate is a constant. ISK production is a constant. If mining yield produces less ships, miners don’t sell them for same price. Prices go up. Sure, your mining ship becomes more expensive, but you make the same ISK for the same time because prices go up. Maybe more.
The people who actually lose are ISK farmers and pvpers. if isk farming is so horrible at that point, people will turn to mining. pvpers aren’t going to care that much unless a battleship costs 1 billion ISK or something crazy. Even then, all that happens is people start using cheaper stuff to pvp in.
Armor resist reduction = small portion of community cried for days, game still fun
Carrier dps reduction = same thing
Abandoned citadels = same thing
Broker relations = same thing
Moon mining reduction = same thing
Cyno on recons only = same thing
With all those changes, people screamed they are unsubbing and ccp ruining game. Sure, out of those changes ccp did modify things a bit because they were absurd. No one going to use recons to cyno a JF. The carrier dps was too dramatic initially. Ccp fixed those too.
If there is a change to horrible, ccp will fix it. Often times it’s not that bad.
This is suggested over and over again, and the answer is always that nobody wants to join in a boycott because they’d rather make extra ISK off your absence from the market.
This complete rubbish is acknowledged as such.
They would do that to make pie charts about this and then fix it. It’s in the dev blog at the top of this page.
Neat, that’s the first time I’ve had a post flagged by the community and removed, then restored by staff.
EVE is set in a grim dark universe, not a farmer’s paradise, would you rather watch Mad Max or hours of someone mowing the grass?
Resources should be scarce. Losing ships, control of territory should hurt.
Change happens, use the wet sponge in your skull to adapt.
HTFU
well it looks like they missed the point they threw hi sec people to the wolves with this one. looks like a my have a half a month of play before i quit again. they flushed my full character concept down the toilet as a builder. if your not with a large corp that controls any amount of space your done. The risk is not worth the venture into low sec or null for the ore. the way its setup now at least you can scrape enough together to buy the null and low sec ore needed to build. They need to think they talk about people hording the ore when this makes people not want to use the ore so how does this serve the purpose?
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Well I think your acronym accurately reflects the ethos behind this latest change by CCP. Now we’ll see how many hi-sec small industrialists and miners decide to “HTFU” or just decide to play a different game instead. I reckon CCP are playing the same high-stakes game with their own future…and I think the resultant loss of players is going to really hurt them and us. I really, really hope I’m wrong.
