Yes. Not literally. You can ripp off by use of clever social engineering. Or like making your stuff fairly inaccessible, so you have to use something they offer to get it back…
Yes functionally. Maybe not forcing literally personally, but adding a strong incentive to do it.
By adding changes exploiting human nature. Like with the change introducing the SP you pay for. Like with introduction of mutaplasmids, like with introduction of Hypernet gambling.
I have no sympathy for those who let themselves be manipulated into spending money because of “clever social engineering”. If it was so clever we wouldn’t know about it. I think that social engineering crap is just an excuse for turning idiots into victims.
Bottom line is, if one thinks it’s too expensive or unfair then the answer isn’t far-fetched: don’t pay and don’t participate.
To continue paying for something thought to be pushed on someone with the magical “social engineering” is beyond foolish.
Of course. If the point on CCP’s part is to get more subs it goes without saying they’ll do whatever they can within the Law to do so, that “whatever” will translate into incentives.
But who’s to blame ? The seller for putting his product in an attractive display or the consumer for falling for Form over Use ?
You mean by exploiting Greed and other things that make us regret things we do, say and buy ?
Is it CCP’s fault that some people turn off their critical thinking, reason and logic because they’re too damn greedy and childish to make the difference between a NEED and a WANT ?
Why should it be the fault of a corporation if their customers let themselves be manipulated ? What happened to personal accountability or just plain thinking for yourself ?
Relatively, seeing the rest of humanity from perspective of the few most intelligent and wise people, majority of human population are “idiots”.
But even including people who are wise and intelligent, CCP makes changes that you cant really predict, you can plan for many future scenarios.
One plan is to stop playing and convert assets to PLEX. Maybe coming back when the whole storm calms and players see thru CCP dirty tricks. It is wiser than playing in current situation when they expose you to different “temptations”.
It is manipulators fault, not manipulated. Manipulated is victim, set up to be manipulated by manipulator, it is manipulators who is initiating act, so the consequences should be on the side of manipulator. People can be tricked into giving houses, cars, all their money. Not only game ISK. What is not allowed in real life, shouldnt be allowed in game. Like gambling. But corporations dont care, because money can buy certain people…
With allowing your position you will get corporations running rampant, exploiting you personally on each step, because they can, and if you will realize it, what you can do will be to say “gosh, I was fooled”, and you will be constantly fooled by different companies. Evil is created when there is no consequences for perpetrator.
Good thing I don’t invest so much time and effort into a game. I don’t see myself wasting my time and effort and grinding until I’m just F-ing sick of it just to be able to plan for many future scenarios…
And for WHAT exactly? More ISK, more resources, more of what ? What’s to be WON in letting a game in your head rent-free to the point of losing sleep, of coming in a forum and whine to a tantrum, of potentially rage quitting and shorting yourself of the fun to be had if only one can see that it’s just a game and nothing to get sick over or be tempted to sink hundreds of euros into it ? Just to continue playing the same way ? To be first on killboard ? What is it ? A euphoric feeling to be “good” at a game, a bunch of pixels coupled with sound effects and music ? Is THAT what some people get pissy about ? If it is, those people need serious help.
If one is such player as described above then yes, it would better for that person to not touch EVE ever again.
The inaccessible industry jobs thing is even more rubbish than the inaccessbility of goods. As if the Trigs would just leave that running for you, cause they are such nice creatures and would not want to impose.
No one who put their stuff in an NPC hi-sec station should be punished for walking away from EVE for a while. That was always the known way to ensure assets were safe for people leaving. And of course there was asset safety otherwise and it should have been applied to Trig takeovers. Seems a no-brainer. People got lives and serious things happen, injured or ailing relatives, job transfers, moving house and country, etc. Punishing people for it is rubbish.
The industry jobs is another kettle of fish though. There should be no delay whatsoever to get those jobs canceled if you want. In fact, it should be made possible to cancel jobs from anywhere just to avoid this issue in the future.
Not with EVE. It is the player who initiates by downloading the game.
People who get tricked don’t get my sympathy. And NO, they aren’t victims or they are but only victims of their own stupidity.
Gambling is fully allowed where I live. We have casinos right next to the prostitute neighborhoods and, as always, no one forces anyone to use either of those.
The thing with Exploitation is it can only work if the exlpoited continues blindly to enable his exploiters. It costs nothing to say NO.
No. Evil is created when there is no Justice for victims and I mean REAL VICTIMS, not whiners and complainers who have, out of their own volition, downloaded a game and decided to open their wallet to the game company. That’s not a victim, that’s just an idiot.
Just because something is created doesn’t mean you HAVE to use it.
CCP created EVE some 30yrs ago yet I only downloaded it 6 weeks ago. What happened ? Why didn’t I get the memo that EVE exists and that I HAVE to download it or my quality of life would somehow be diminished…?
By your logic, I should have ALL the money in the world because, ya’know, it exists.
I didn’t say that and I hope you’re not saying it either.
I put gambling and prostitution together to say that BOTH are legal in my country to your argument that gaming companies allow gambling in their game and that gambling is illegal, which it isn’t everywhere.
First you should stop calling victims idiots. Because if you are a victim or not is not defined by intelligence. Its defined by being a person that suffered something from perpetrator.
Yes, of course, but that doesnt mean you should allow corporations to trick others using gambling or asset manipulation into giving them your money. Everyone should impose the consequences on them for doing that, without consequences they will go further.
I shouldn’t stop calling people who make themselves victims out of their own idiocy idiots because they’re not victims of perpetrators but victims of their own action and decisions.
I would never call REAL victims, victims of a crime, idiots. I was the victim of a crime that I’m still trying to get over from so I think I know the difference between a real victim and some entitled shmuck who thinks he should be served everything on a silver platter.
What happened ? A grandma got ripped off by CCP because she didn’t understand what she was signing and agreeing to ? If that’s the case then yes, we shouldn’t allow that to happen.
But I don’t call it a “trick” when someone downloads a game of his own choosing and decides to pay ( in whatever form ) of his own choosing to be able to access features in the game that he KNEW were behind a paywall for a gameplay he KNEW would not be sustainable at a satisfactory level while knowing there’ll be grind and knowing that the game is going through changes that may or may not affect his gameplay.
That’s no trick. CCP isn’t making the Age of Chaos a secret.
Sounds like you’re talking about some common thieves waiting to ambush travelers in the forest
Yes, I did a few years ago.
Still, people get manipulated because they want to be. People prefer that others think for themselves instead of making an effort of pondering on things that woukd make them see more clearly when someone tries to take them for a ride.
So we’re going to change the whole world because people are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves… How exactly is that gonna work ?