delusions of intelligence would be enough.
James put me in charge of this forum and policymaking.
I can see that most members of the community are in agreement that rorquals must be removed from the game. As sad as it is to see them go, I’m afraid we must respect the wishes of the players, and farmers will have to just quit altogether.
Goodbye and thanks for your service!
Just like real life as the rich get wealthier and the poor can never hope to climb up is what you are saying, but here in eve everyone can climb even a new player because there’s nothing stopping their earning potential except time and skills.
In fact you should try ratting high sec then low/null, then there’s the mission payouts and LP difference and you will see how fast exactly it already is set up, fact of the matter is CCP is lowering the resources in null because the fat cats are too fat so fat camp has been established to get them moving.
Wrong, I know this because after a long few years of being absent I returned with literally nothing but my rookie ship and some PI I never exported from my 4 planets, with that start I now am very successful and it really boiled down to skills and time and the will to invest into eve, missions were my source of income and from there the isk provided me with my tools and no “bitter vet” could keep me from the riches of the eve verse.
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show info of the Roqal:
The Rorqual was conceived and designed by Outer Ring Excavations in response to a growing need for capital industry platforms with the ability to support and sustain large-scale mining operations in uninhabited areas of space.
To that end, the Rorqual’s primary strength lies in its ability to grind raw ores into particles of smaller size than possible before, while still maintaining their distinctive molecular structure. This means the vessel is able to carry vast amounts of ore in compressed form.
Additionally, the Rorqual is able to fit a capital tractor beam unit, capable of pulling in cargo containers from far greater distances and at far greater speeds than smaller beams can. It also possesses a sizeable drone bay, jump drive capability and the capacity to fit a clone vat bay. This combination of elements makes the Rorqual the ideal nexus to build deep space mining operations around.
Due to its specialization towards industrial operations, its ship maintenance bay is able to accommodate only industrial ships, mining barges and their tech 2 variants.
section 1:
The Rorqual was conceived and designed by Outer Ring Excavations in response to a growing need for capital industry platforms with the ability to support and sustain large-scale mining operations in uninhabited areas of space.
guess that doesnt mean in high sec
i htink its a stupid idea to get rorqs in HS … you would need ganking titans for CODE to … 
i know you will not get Dev input here …
JuuR
You have a point, gankers certainly seem to post on the basis that ganking should not be balanced in any way at all. Though they want it to work only one way…
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I don’t want to get too mired in a topic that is asking to change fundamental rules that I feel are in place for very clear reasons, but I suppose I will take some aspirin and expand on my position a bit.
I read this…
…as saying “There’s nothing stopping a new player except that they’re a new player.” By definition, new players are those who haven’t spent time in the game and who do not have skill, though they may have skill points or talent that would let them develop skill more quickly.
Rorquals in highsec would be tools of the rich and established who, being rich and established, don’t need more tools to get there.
Ultimately, money isn’t how I measure success, anyway, and I wouldn’t really go on a campaign to give new players more ways to grind isk. I want them to have the ability to shake up the eve-verse and assert themselves and this is why I don’t like an idea that makes people more immune to being shaken. I want self defense to be a solvable problem, but one people have to put effort into solving to succeed.
I’m an old player, myself, and I would not call myself very successful. This isn’t because I don’t have isk, though. It’s because not very many people recognize my flag, or know what it represents. It does have meaning, though, and some people know it. In that way I consider myself more successful than many. I gauge the health of Eve in terms of the variety meaningful flags it contains.
People who can interfere with my game play make my life more complicated and difficult, but also more interesting. These people are getting increasingly rare, and I don’t like that. I get less motivated. I don’t want to conflict with people or shoot at them, but I do want to recognize, acknowledge, negotiate, compromise, and cooperate with them.
I maintain that if the ability to monopolize the wealth of New Eden is given, it will starve out innovative new blood before it has a chance to take root. If you fit the description of ‘innovative new blood’, then that you managed to work your way up the ladder means to me they haven’t given that power yet, but we are asking them to bit by bit.
Rorquals should not be in HS because they are Roquals
if Rorqs are allowed in HS the mineral pirce would go to hell
to much ore would be mined … way to much minerals would be on the market
and yea … you cant gank rorqs in HS without a lot of ships and i want to lough at that killmail … why not?
JuuR
No.
Eve is not a single player game. No one wants you to be able to have a solo AFK machine. If you want to mine AFK, do it in herds so we can come take your ore from you.
Rorqs in high-sec would break the game, period. I don’t know how carebears can’t see this.
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You obviously don’t understand moon mining. You’ve also neglected the fact that they removed Spod from null.
No, the Rorq will never be in high-sec, no matter how many AFK whiny babies there are crying about it.
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What is the volume formula of ore generated, per hour, per moon, in HS? and in NS ?
Then get yourself some knowledge before claiming BS again.
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So, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re just spewing word vomit.
Ahh, I see. You’re a pretentious ■■■■. That made this conversation much easier. You’re opinion doesn’t matter. Sorry, bucko.
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You don’t. Otherwise you would not be spoutting BS like “more ore in the moons in NS”.
I do have those numbers. But I don’t claim them, so I will just say “citation needed”.
And while you are at it, get some manner : when you make claim, provide the sources for those claims.
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But you don’t have an opinion, kid. You have an uninformed ■■■■ theory. That’s all you have. No matter how much you want to church it up.
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You guys with all your talk and whatnot forgot to ask…
...the most important question there ever existed regarding Rorquals.
Has @Doomchinchilla heard about the Hi-sec Rorqual changes?
yes you did :
So yes that’s what you meant. So yes I understood very well what your wrote, and asked for what was backing your claim.
Here YOU are the one who misread what I wrote. I do not defend a position, I state your claim is BS and you have no idea what you are talking about.
No, you literally claimed things that are false. The volumic growth of moon belt is not even “informed knowledge”, it’s basic knowledge. I don’t mine and still I know of it.
who is talking about value ?
You talked about
So yes that’s exactly what you shat the forum with.
Exactly in what I quoted.
Yes I do. Because you are a lazy ass idiot liar, so I won’t make your work.
You are a complete moron, therefore yes I have issue with sharing knowledge that people took the time to acquire, and that you consider is not worth YOUR time to acquire.
You have no idea about the amount of ore mined mined and available in HS/NS so your whole claim is BS.
The fact that you are refusing to share your source in detail shows that in fact you don’t know anything and are just being a troll as you usually are. You love ot jump in, make ridiculous claims then start screaming in broken English about how other people need to provide evidence.
We are talking about mining, and mining yield is expressed in m³. That you know decide to talk in raw isk is just a complete nonsense, genius. When we say" amount" it’s in volume, not in isk (which you actually refer to when you use the word “value”, which you actually do after that)
Ho no, a random idiot on internet told me what to do.
I tell you what, let me know when you have the minimum knowledge to have a discussion on the topic and can stop spoutting BS, maybe you’ll actually have the right to have an opinion.
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