To be honest I haven’t read all posts in this thread. Because most of the times it is about Miners/PvE vs Gankers.
So when I started EVE I really liked the idea about the economy and hauling. Yes this is not my main.
I know for some people hauling is a boring activity and yes it kind of is. But to be honest when I was new I probably was making more ISK by hauling than I am doing now by ratting. I was simply checking prices, moving stuff between Dodixie and Jita, setting up buy orders, etc. to make a profit because moving stuff from A to B costs time and thus money, and is a risk.
I can not really speak for the hauling crowd tbh because I am no longer doing it. But if HighSec is safe and you can not be ganked that playstyle will be less viable. Yes it will still be viable. But a lot of people will just move their stuff on their own because they can autopilot their stuff while cooking/shopping/working, etc.
I am not saying EVE will die if HighSec is safe. But it will reduce or kill certain professions.
I 100% agree with the Youtuber you posted and I 100% agree with you.
I’m not even a month into the game and some elite PvPer thought it was fun to blow me up in my Velator… a Velator? A prize kill of a noobie?
Bravo! You’re an elite player, congratulations.
Meanwhile, if I can’t even check out Null for a few minutes in a cheap-ass ship then that tells me everything I need to know about this game: PASS.
I’m off to play Warface.
I had to look up warface and I think that is the problem behind your ideas. EVE is not an arena with matchmaking.
You even said
Meanwhile, if I can’t even check out Null for a few minutes in a cheap-ass ship
You are invading the terroitory of other people. You probably have played other games. How often can you just walk into an advanced doungen and not get killed? What do you expect from player who react like actual people not not dumb NPCs. A lot of players are used to NPCs being dumb idiots who are simply there waiting for the player to kill them. Surprisingly that is not the case if the NPCs are actual players. That is what makes EVE fun for some people. Because it is not simply grinding totally dumb NPCs. For others it is a new experience. But EVE also has really dumb NPCs if you like that.
No matchmaking indeed but a server-wide arena for sure.
You’re right, I figured that out for myself and since I wouldn’t want to “invade” people’s territory or even INVADE the server, I might as well play another game.
I would not visit Null or Low even in a capsule. You probably thought the PvPers in EVE discriminate between good targets and those not even worth their time? You were wrong. They’re a bored trigger-happy bunch and will shoot at anything that isn’t green to them.
Join a corporation if you want to visit Null or Low. Any corporation will do, they’re all the same.
It doesn’t matter, he didn’t consent to combat. Even if he was there to “spy” (what an absurd notion), the territory owners should have given a warning for him to leave instead of immediately proceeding to the griefing option. They broke the Geneva Conventions for war with their actions.
Your sarcasm is too much for me. Nobody will understand it excpet the people who already know you. And I only know you by reading the forums from time to time.
I am starting to think that is your honest opinion because the humor is missing. But, that is not plausible.
Bullies like you should be banned. Your kind makes EVE and the forum a horrible experience for normal people.
You are mean, disrespectful of your elders like raised in a pigsty with no morals or courtesy.
The barbarians of three thousand years ago had more grace and honor than you.
The quickest we get rid of your toxic kind the better it will be for our civilization.
If you fly in space that isn’t yours or your corporation’s you can consider yourself a trespasser. Trespassers in EVE get blown up. That’s the game
Maybe they should change the name of the game.
“EVE” could be mistaken for the name of our shared ancestral mother: a kind gentle soul who was tricked.
Maybe they should call it Ka-BOOM!!!
I think it will help new players understand what mess they’re getting into.
Let me preface this by saying I don’t agree with the people throwing out insults and personal attacks here. The game is ruthless, but as players we can keep being civil. Having said that:
What is it with this “elite PvPer” nonsense I keep hearing about? Killing a Velator takes little skill, but there are valid gameplay reasons to do it. Including for pure sport - a kill is a kill. Nobody will be hurt by your passive-aggressive moralizing, only amused. You waltzed into a dangerous no-holds-barred PvP area of the game populated by extremely territorial, paranoid alliances and expected to be safe because… it would be dishonorable to kill you?
Do you even know what kind of game you’re playing? Would you expect to be able to go sightseeing in Horde territory as an Alliance player on a WoW PvP server?
Why would you be entitled to be able to visit null without bothering to learn anything about it, the mechanics that govern it, how the players who live there behave, etc.? You can most definitely visit it in a cheap ship - I’ve done it many times in a humble Heron (sometimes getting out alive, sometimes not). But you have to be willing to learn anything about the game first.
EVE isn’t a game of honorable combat and dueling equals (well it can be that, but it’s pretty rare) - it’s a world of cutthroat wars, piracy and deceit. There is cooperation, generosity and decency here as well, but if you refuse to understand that you are not safe anywhere, no matter who you are*, that others are allowed to kill you just for fun and it’s your job to learn how to avoid it - maybe it’s indeed for the better that you move on to other games.
*Except if you’re a new player still in one of the rookie systems, then you get some extra protection.
