Hello CSM. Myself and many others would like to share a hanger with characters that is not in corp. Apparantly this cant be done with ACL because of lag. But what if there was another way?
Its basically anchored secure containers in stations.When you open the tab all the secure hangers in the station is visible but if you try to access one of them it will ask for a password. Has that already been considered? Kind regards Kane
Consider this:
Only one member of your corporation needs to be a spy to secretly leak this password to anyone else who can then pull all those secure containers empty without a trace.
You wouldn’t even get to know who the spy is, as the logs show a character that is not in any way linked to them, as leaking passwords happens out of the game, unlike ACL access.
This means no repercussions for the spy and nothing to stop them from doing it again once you set up a new password and new items in those containers.
How would you get this idea to work?
They are not intended to be shared among more than a few characters but if you want you still can.
If this works and is introduced then in for example Jita there might be 2000+ Secure hangars after a while and finding your own can be a pita. New feature whree you tag an item with “Always on top” might be possible and solve this. This might also be useful in other situations.
Unused secure hangars should probably be removed after a while even if they contain items. They will go back to the Item Hangar of the person that first created the Shared Hangar. Lets discuss or not.
Lol. A lot of things are not meant to happen in EVE but happens any way. “Friends” have stabbed each others in the back
What is your point?
Intention of you or the devs is not very relevant for how players will use the tools they’re given.
If you design it well players will use it as you intended.
In this case people will likely log in on an unknown alt, put in the password they know and steal everything as this leaves zero trace to the original spy as result of your suggestion.
Spying and stealing is all a part of EVE, but generally people burn bridges behind them when they do so at scale. Your suggestion allows people to steal without trace.
You cant even connect the dots. This suggestion is meant to share hangers with alts.
Even if it’s meant for alts (which you never stated until now), people can still brute force open containers and steal contents. The amount of lag this interface could cause in popular stations like Jita 4-4 would also make this untenable, as I’m sure many traders and indy folks would understand.
If someone manages to brute force a container all power to them. Its like ganking except praying on weak passwords. However there are methods to prevent brute forcing if it isnt desired. For example limit the number of password attempts.
You can easily scale your password attempts the same way you scale anything else in EVE: alts.
Some people have hundreds or even thousands of characters. That’s a lot of attempts to break into someone’s Jita hangar.
Not enough to brute force
I cant rule out that a container may be opened by someone who is not supposed to have access but it will be a rare circumstance. It could be due to someone guessing the password or a bug.
It seems to me public secure containers serve a bigger purpose in stations than in space, but they are only a thing in space at the moment. The ones in stations have to have much more room than the giant secure container tho.
what gives you this idea ?
