Security status effects tethering

[Snowflake_Tem]

@Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt

I welcome you feely free to express your opinion. If you keep insulting people I will report your posts though.

Is that a threat? It is telling that you feel insulted, incisive points hit hard.
Appeals to authority to protect your misbegotten ideology is all you’ve got. So, fight, damn yer eyes.

[Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt]

No, it’s not. Being called a degenerate is generally insulting. What’s telling is that attacking people is your go-to argument.

[Io_Koval]

That tends to happen when your go-to argument is telling people “your opinion is wrong” with no argument, which is also insulting.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Sentenced_1989

You’ve fallen into the classic trap of missing the big picture. If the deer had to pay 20 euros per month to eat in the park with predators, deer might choose to pay different amount to eat in another park… then the predator can sit in place and “eat the trees”, causing even more damage.

This worked Wolf Reintroduction Changes Yellowstone Ecosystem, because they introduced 14 wolves, which rose to about 300-400, their population is tracked and if there are to many wolves, causing more problems than benefits, there will be thinning of the herd (pack in this case) with an update.

If you catch, neuter, and release every wolf, in a few years there won’t be any wolves anymore. And a few years after that, no grass either.

[Snowflake_Tem]

@Destiny_Corrupted

If you catch, neuter, and release every wolf, in a few years there won’t be any wolves anymore. And a few years after that, no grass either.

Also, they quickly sort themselves out without interference.
@Sentenced_1989 can not envision a world without it.

[Snowflake_Tem]

@Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt

Being called a degenerate is generally insulting

That’s not what happened, but if it makes you feel better I’m sorry you took that to heart.

[New_Order_Enforcer]

Tethering is disabled but docking is allowed only with pods… interesting.

If I undock in my ganking ship, now I should consider my ship lost since I can not redock and I can not eject from it because of FacPo.

I like to dunk stratios, orthus, marauders… but they like to burn/warp away and they are hard targets to get, therefore if I lose the target, I am going to lose my ship because I can not redock again but in a pod.

As consequence gankers are going to dunk static targets which ensures death by Concord and it guarantees ganking success, and which are these targets?.. ventures, retrievers, hulks… the younger the better.

Is there any real ganker in the CSM explaining to CCP the obvious consequences of these mechanics?

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt

No, it’s not. Being called a degenerate is generally insulting. What’s telling is that attacking people is your go-to argument.

So as a new player, why should we hold your opinion on EVE credible?

[Zieae]

@High_Priestess_Seana

all I know is security status effecting DOCKING has been needed for a VERY LONG TIME.

if you want to gank in high sec… GO AHEAD but you should be treated as the pirate you are… last i check blood raiders are not allowed to dock at jita/amarr…

the alpha account not be able to to go red mode was needed not because it was a good change, but because everyone and their mom abuses the system for cata gank squad multibox drones instead of you know actually bringing some friends?

^^^ that ^^^
Damn that sounds good.

[Io_Koval]

I thought the point was that blood raiders secretly dock in Amarr and other systems. How else are the 1.0 systems rife with NPC pirates and missions to eliminate them? It’s a whole dystopian future with tons of underground societies, not some pop polished sci-fi futurism utopia where pirates stand in their designated spot and empires stand in theirs like orderly boys and girls.

[stefnia_Freir]

@Io_Koval

That tends to happen when your go-to argument is telling people “your opinion is wrong” with no argument, which is also insulting.

You can’t insult an opinion.

[Io_Koval]

Exactly, so you and I are left wondering why Defi Natalie is so upset her opinion was called degenerate and passive.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Io_Koval

I thought the point was that blood raiders secretly dock in Amarr and other systems. How else are the 1.0 systems rife with NPC pirates and missions to eliminate them? It’s a whole dystopian future with tons of underground societies, not some pop polished sci-fi futurism utopia where pirates stand in their designated spot and empires stand in theirs like orderly boys and girls.

All the NPC pirates have various outposts and stations for forward deployments. Outposts and stations that the empires do nothing about with the exception of sending capsuleers to destroy them through agent missions.

So the NPCs do absolutely nothing about NPC pirates, and send players to fight them instead. Yet the carebears think that it would be a valid role-play reason to have NPCs go after player stations, and not expect players to do anything about them themselves whatsoever.

[stefnia_Freir]

Because an opinion can’t be degenerate and passive, only the person can.
So you are actually insulting the person.

While an opinion can be wrong, stupid, absurd, …

So claiming “you are wrong is an insult”, is stupid.
While claiming “your opinion has degenerate passivity”, is an insult.

[Io_Koval]

Wrong

[Altara_Zemara]

@Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt

You’re talking about what you see as the premise of the game. I don’t accept your view of that.

Then what do you see as the premise of the game ? The one thing that is common to all those who complain about the state of the game is they can never say what thrilling goal for noobs is going to be advertised. You think 'come and watch a mining laser as you mine 1.2 trillion tons of Veldspar ’ is going to make new people flood in ?

[stefnia_Freir]

Just because he does not provide another one, does not mean that yours is good.

[Snowflake_Tem]

Just to be clear my intent for the use of the word degenerate is option two: -

degenerate ~ noun

1. a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior
   degenerate ~ verb
2. grow worse
   Her condition deteriorated; Conditions in the slums degenerated; The discussion devolved into a shouting match
   degenerate ~ adj
3. unrestrained by convention or morality
   Congreve draws a debauched aristocratic society; deplorably dissipated and degraded; riotous living; fast women

[stefnia_Freir]

and it’s still an insult.

The actual terms you used was

@Snowflake_Tem

if you continue to promote your degenerative passivity.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Altara_Zemara

You think 'come and watch a mining laser as you mine 1.2 trillion tons of Veldspar ’ is going to make new people flood in ?

Yes?