Should life be harder for gankers?

[T_Elliot]

@DrysonBennington

Should I be ganked for AFK security monitoring of my rental property?

Hi @DrysonBennington, you do know that EvE is just a video game, right? Attacking people in real life is not comparable to playing a video game. If a friend dunks on your or takes your king in a chess game is that similar to attacking you in real life?

[Wes_Wyhunnan]

@Dchill

You are also on my ■■■■ list btw.

Honestly that feels like the list to be on.

[TheHound_OfGreys]

@Wes_Wyhunnan

Honestly that feels like the list to be on.

Yeah, I’m jealous

[Karak_Terrel]

@Dchill

Its not a PVP game when the vast majority of players dont PVP. And ganking is more like griefing than PVP in the first place.

It’s always incredible how people like you can cry pages about how the game is full of involuntary PvP you rather want to see gone, and then you claim that it’s not a PvP game, because of the magic trick of renaming some of the PvP you don’t like to something other than PvP.

You WISH it wasn’t a PvP game. You WANT PvP gone from some parts because you are too lazy to learn the game and take the easy couple of steps to protect your highsec mining from ganking.

Instead of learning about game mechanics and ship fittings, chose the correct hull for the situation and fit your ship to negate the danger, which is also called “playing the game”, you instead come to the forums and expect the game to change so you don’t have to deal with all that.

It’s literally a skill issue.

[Vuhdo_Rin]

@Dchill

The poll has almost 100 votes, majority

100 dudes are NOT the majority xD if it were a poll with 10k dudes then we could try again argue if this poll represents any opinions !

[Aiko_Danuja]

@DrysonBennington

Ganking isnt that difficult. You simply use several ships to web the target as it approaches the gate. When Concord takes out the first ship, the second webber ship steps in and webs the target. While the first ship is webbing, a cheap frigate, the gankers undock, warp to another ship within range.

What are you on?

[Ax_l_Thorne]

@Dchill

What did you get out ganking miners btw?

Roleplay.

It was fun playing as an environmental terrorist and ganking miners.

Setting up deployable cans with anti-mining slogans and such, targeting their haulers, stealing their ore and destroying it in front of them.

But most miners don’t really understand the rpg part of mmorpg, and just assume you’re doing it to be a dick.

[Ax_l_Thorne]

@T_Elliot

They are not sociopaths looking to “punish” miners or haulers.

I’ve been convicted and sentenced to multiple consecutive lifetime sentences for blowing up pixelated spaceships in a fictional online video-game.

I’m not sure how we fit into the “not sociopathic” category.

[Ax_l_Thorne]

@Vuhdo_Rin

100 dudes are NOT the majority xD if it were a poll with 10k dudes then we could try again argue if this poll represents any opinions !

Don’t be silly! Polls are 100% conclusive.

Things like, where the poll was taken, where it was posted, the target audience, built in biases (intentional and non-intentional), socioeconomic strata, race, location, size of the sampling population, student t value, outliers and even the question itself have absolutely no bearing on its outcome. You’re just crazy if you think it does!

[DrysonBennington]

Gee, Ive only been playing video games since the days of Atari. Its not the fact that Eve Online is a video game, the facts that players try to incorporate game play, in real life is the problem. Just like players who plat GTA, most have the mentality of wanting to live the life of their game character, or Call of Duty where players want to be looked at as military and try to use their in game activities to associate with real military.

So, do I know the difference?

Probably not.

[Altara_Zemara]

@DrysonBennington

So, do I know the difference?

Let me see now…

Half Life…nope, I don’t go around in RL bashing everyone with a crowbar
Medal Of Honour…nope, can’t recall ever charging up a rl French beach and shooting 400 Germans
Left4Dead…nope, I don’t recall ever blapping 10,000 zombies in rl.
GTA…nope, never even had a speeding ticket in rl.
Skyrim…nope, for some reason my dragon shouts don’t work in rl.

hmmm…I start to see a pattern here. Oh, wait…of course…they are all games and not rl.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@DrysonBennington

Call of Duty where players want to be looked at as military and try to use their in game activities to associate with real military.

Is that why the Kuudere and Tactical Unicorn skins are the record top sellers in the franchise?

[T_Elliot]

@Ax_l_Thorne

I’ve been convicted and sentenced to multiple consecutive lifetime sentences for blowing up pixelated spaceships in a fictional online video-game.

I’m not sure how we fit into the “not sociopathic” category.

Well yeah, but iirc you’re a twelve-year-old girl, so I am going you some allowance on account of your age.

[T_Elliot]

I remember playing D&D back in the “satanic panic” in the '80’s and having to listen to Chirstian fundamentalists claim that playing D&D was a gateway to the occult and the players learned how to cast actual black magic spells. Then they would claim that D&D players could not separate their fantasy game from reality.

[Ax_l_Thorne]

I’m 12 and 1/2 now.

[Azazod]

Gankers should be forced to wear outfits like Alex and his droogs wore in A Clockwork Orange. Then everyone would be happy.

[Wachutu]

As the name suggests, they alert pilots to their poorly secured ships.

[Mary_Forcades]

No it should not be.

[Beast_of_Revelations]

@Kezrai_Charzai

• Is ganking important or necessary for EVE? What does it add to the game?
• Does ganking have positive or negative impact on player numbers and player paying?
• What ways can the ganking ecosystem be improved or replaced?

Actually, these aren’t particularly good questions. The reason why is, “ganking” is simply killing someone, i.e. playing the game. If someone doesn’t like “ganking” (playing the game), there are two choices, neither one particularly good: 1) remove “ganking” (the ability to kill someone), or 2) construct special rules around “ganking” e.g. when it is allowed and under what circumstances, etc.

As to #2, this has already been done, sort of. You have different security sectors, you have CONCORD, you have the whole suspect/criminal system, etc.

[James_Fuchs]

@DrysonBennington

Ganking isnt that difficult. You simply use several ships to web the target as it approaches the gate. When Concord takes out the first ship, the second webber ship steps in and webs the target. While the first ship is webbing, a cheap frigate, the gankers undock, warp to another ship within range.

Ah, I understand. Your browser must have accidentally connected from a different time space reality. That’s why you are describing ganking and gankers the way you do.

Really interesting! I wonder what ganking is like in the parallel universes. Can you tell me more?

With curious regards
-James Fuchs