Singularity Accessibility Update

Not sure what any of that has to do with SISI though

They can still test those on TQ, so losing SISI doesn’t impact that, how do you think the overwhelming majority of people learn how to PvP? because its not on SISI lol

Then thats life, you don’t always have the perfect scenario in which to perform tests, i mean, using SISI to test the mechanics of Zarzakh would be easy, but doing them on TQ was pretty much as easy if you’re smart about it, not everything is going to be in your favour and you should expect to lose things while learning, its how most EVE players learned anything

Sure its nice to have zero risk and not have to worry about losing a ship, but you’ll find that the pressure of risking a ship is going to keep you on your toes far more than messing around on SISI ever will and real world experience trumps theory any day of the week

If you can’t afford it, you shouldn’t be flying it.

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Ill re-phrase that to “the Test Server allows the little guys to test theories a number of times against these scenarios which otherwise are financially nonsensical.”

Affording is a non-issue. But that’s not wrong for some folks, I always say if you can’t afford to buy it twice…don’t buy it! I am just fighting to keep the testing environment many folks have enjoyed the convenience of from time to time for 20 or so years now.

Thanks for your reply!

Greetings o/. I want to share my experience, and perhaps this is just my situation, but still.

Sisi helped avoid the mistake of capital ships.
I have been familiar with the game for a long time, but I have never fly anything more than a BS. Many people dream of carriers or even Titan, as was I. At one time, for participating in mass tests, I accumulated several SP and spent them on a super (Phoenix and Chimera). After flying for a short time, I realized that this is not what I want from the game.

Sisi helped me understand that running a corporation is not what i wish.
For some time I was a member of the corporation, but I was not happy with some aspects. There are no problems with this in the game - you can create your own corporation. That’s what I did on the test server. Having looked at how they work, the functions of management, claim, sovereignty (at that time it was necessary to be in an alliance, no idea how it is now), I came to the conclusion that management is not what I would like. Even if i can play alltime. Even for a solo player, in order to place a customs house in an interesting WH - I have no desire to spend hours shooting into the void, entering the required window of vulnerability, then setting up my customs, defending, etc… this is not what I want.

Sisi helped me find a game style.
Various online games (but not all of them) offer the opportunity to test drive characters/tanks/ships/etc. In EVE, Sisi performed this function for me. I play rarely and inconsistently, I don’t like grinding, and I often do different things. Sometimes trade, sometimes production, sometimes missions, etc. On the test server, I could fly in advance on a ship that was interesting to me and understand whether my expectations corresponded to reality or not.

The good place to relax.
And perhaps one of the striking advantages of the test server was that you could safely visit interesting systems without fear of pirates, suicide/smartbombs, other toxic players. Of course, you can use MWD+cloak, undok books, other various things, and I use them on Tranquility. But I like just roam in space, I’m not at all interested in pvp. It brings its own flavor when you hacking, but when you want to take a beautiful screenshot with the correct position of the ship, the play of light, etc - but you see combat probes in scan… There is no way for it. I will better take my screenshots at Sisi.

This is my personal experience. It helped me to save a lot of real time, and helped me avoid a lot of frustration. The recent changes in the access policy do not make me happy, but I naively hope that one of the developers will read the topic … and perhaps be able to find some solution for people like me.

With best regards, Aslanari.

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CCP didn’t want to leak future patches.

You will be OK. Do your research. TONS OF YOUTUBE on EVE online. Tons of wiki and always have help chat. Sometimes using logic goes a long way. Heaven forbid something blows up in your face and you learn/grow from that.

We don’t have a test server in RL and corporations can’t just test out their products for 100% chance of success.

It may or may not come back. :person_shrugging: Now people will actually risk ISK on theories rather than testing it out like the real world.

You could just talk to other ppl with many experience ! you can get a lot of conlusions about your game style and how you wanna change it.

a lot of things you can try without risking to much. yes, you need to pay the “original” price for ships and modules you wanna try but still you could just ask ppl with experiance.

you even can try how to use a cyno or how to use a DD / bombs of your Fighter Bomber / some other ■■■■. you can even “simulate” a fight if you have friends you can trust. yes, its not the same but you can train several things without getting killed.

if you dont have friends, then sorry but try the ■■■■ you want and see if its works.

Greetings o/. I want to share my experience, and perhaps this is just my situation, but still.

Sisi helped avoid the mistake of capital ships.
I have been familiar with the game for a long time, but I have never fly anything more than a BS. Many people dream of carriers or even Titan, as was I. At one time, for participating in mass tests, I accumulated several SP and spent them on a super (Phoenix and Chimera). After flying for a short time, I realized that this is not what I want from the game.

Sisi helped me understand that running a corporation is not what i wish.
For some time I was a member of the corporation, but I was not happy with some aspects. There are no problems with this in the game - you can create your own corporation. That’s what I did on the test server. Having looked at how they work, the functions of management, claim, sovereignty (at that time it was necessary to be in an alliance, no idea how it is now), I came to the conclusion that management is not what I would like. Even if i can play alltime. Even for a solo player, in order to place a customs house in an interesting WH - I have no desire to spend hours shooting into the void, entering the required window of vulnerability, then setting up my customs, defending, etc… this is not what I want.

Sisi helped me find a game style.
Various online games (but not all of them) offer the opportunity to test drive characters/tanks/ships/etc. In EVE, Sisi performed this function for me. I play rarely and inconsistently, I don’t like grinding, and I often do different things. Sometimes trade, sometimes production, sometimes missions, etc. On the test server, I could fly in advance on a ship that was interesting to me and understand whether my expectations corresponded to reality or not.

The good place to relax.
And perhaps one of the striking advantages of the test server was that you could safely visit interesting systems without fear of pirates, suicide/smartbombs, other toxic players. Of course, you can use MWD+cloak, undok books, other various things, and I use them on Tranquility. But I like just roam in space, I’m not at all interested in pvp. It brings its own flavor when you hacking, but when you want to take a beautiful screenshot with the correct position of the ship, the play of light, etc - but you see combat probes in scan… There is no way for it. I will better take my screenshots at Sisi.

This is my personal experience. It helped me to save a lot of real time, and helped me avoid a lot of frustration. The recent changes in the access policy do not make me happy, but I naively hope that one of the developers will read the topic … and perhaps be able to find some solution for people like me.

With best regards, Aslanari.

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I would not be half the player I am today without a place to practice without the anxiety of failure. Worst decision you could have made for me and my play. Please bring back some sort of practice arena.

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The overwhelming response from the community about this charge was negative and CCP doesn’t seem to have responded at all, very disappointing.

Why would they respond, the vocal minority being upset is pretty much par for the course, they knew this was going to upset the people who use SISI for purposes it was not intended for, what sort of response are you expecting, they are still going ahead with their plans they aren’t going to suddenly u-turn just because the people they expected to be upset are infact, upset

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Personaly 4 me their plans prevent me to back to the game again. I wana try some new content after long inactive but I’m not ready to spend billions of isk for that. It’s not only about their plans and upset ppl, it is also about retention. So let my 5 accs will be inactive till test server is open or I’ll never be back. And I think there is so many such ppl.

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Not as many as you think, but bye can i have your stuff?

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I decided to come back to eve recently, and I wanted to try to get back into the game, not starting in a t1 frig just to train muscle memory again. I want to jump into expencive ■■■■ and use it or get it blown up for the right reason, not for reason I forgot something. Sisi was the place to go to get back into the game, I think I did a mistake coming back. Super surprised CCP took down Sisi. Well, Im not subbing the 2 other accounts for sure.

They purposely do not have sisi up for that exact reason. They dont want anyone using sisi to get ahead or find a “meta” before those who dont use sisi or cant.

Most people in game still don’t know, but every single one I have told has had a negative response. We all used it rarely and without it some things are just now off the table for new players permanently.

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And what things are those?

Please do list them and how SISI was the ONLY way they could experience that content, i’ll wait :slight_smile:

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Cap fights

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You can fight other capitals on TQ, so SISI isn’t the only way to experience said content

I was being sarcastic since new players shouldnt be in caps anyway.

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Ahhh, i mean new players aren’t going to be on the test server most of the time anyway due to how infrequently mirrors happened

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