Skill injectors and guilt


(Magnus Witchspace) #1

I’m a an old player, but I’ve just come back after a 6 year absence. So much has changed. Skill injectors? WTF? I had billions of isk lying around so I converted most of it into skill injectors. Suddenly, I’m flying a Golem and blitzing L4 missions. My Drakes are now dead to me. I feel like I just cheated. Discuss.

Ps. Does anyone wanna buy some Drakes?


(Dyver Phycad) #2

Drug addicts don’t feel guilt. Now get that tear wiped of your face and buy my skill injectors. My accounts don’t run on love, you know?


(Tipa Riot) #3

Yeah, you should feel guilty for wasting the skill injectors on that. The worst with skill injectors are bad decisions you will regret later.


(Magnus Witchspace) #4

Well it’s a massive step up for me. Now skill EXTRACTORS… Who does that? I’m guessing that’s where most of the regret would be.


(Tipa Riot) #5

Skills = ISK now, people fund their alts’ or even main’s Omega states with extracting and selling surplus skillpoints. Skillfarms are a thing.


(Manzo Schwat) #6

Skill injectors are no different than buying a character from the Bazaar, as far as P2W guilt goes. Neither of those methods to buy SP are good game design, but CCP considers them the lesser evil over third party RMT alternatives.


(March rabbit) #7

My SP farm :sunglasses:


(Uriel the Flame) #8

(Nana Skalski) #9

Its not cheating when you pay for it.


(Lunar K'Rnlav) #10

You have the money
It’s not guilt to buy advantage with money
It’s simply just a normal trading


(Magnus Witchspace) #11

Just disappointed, that’'s all. I thought Eve would be the one game to not fall into the trap of the ‘pay-to-win’ model. As I said, a lot has changed in 6 years.


(Tipa Riot) #12

What did you win? Sounds more like you may have killed your own fun …


(Mevatla Vekraspek) #13

Pay to win ? A bad pilot with injectors is still a bad pilot.


(Manzo Schwat) #14

It would feel like cheating if I bought something in-game with out of game money. ■■■■, even paying for game time would make me feel like a cheater, since it is available on the in-game market.


(Kaivarian Coste) #15

It doesn’t bother me. You can now spend ISK on other stuff besides ships. It opens up more gameplay, which is a good thing.


(Lunar K'Rnlav) #16

Dude people selling their time
You buying their time
It’s basically normal trade


(Cygnus Parud) #17

I was very much against skill extractor/injectors and skill trading, I even rage quit over it. I still am very much against it but being a hypocrite I use it, now that it’s in the game.

It still feels wrong.


(Lfod Shi) #18

You can always extract the skills and get your space money back.


(mkint) #19

I can see the guilt. If your sense of the game is “progress,” that kind of thing is typically measured by things like SP and your assets. Achieving months worth of “progress” with a couple clicks would feel like cheating. In that context, EVE is a much shallower game than it used to be. I suppose now you could start caring about killboards or something until you realize how shallow that is too.


(Nicolai Serkanner) #20

Feeling guilty about it is just silly. If you don’t want to “cheat” into certain skills don’t use injectors. It is as simple as that. I promised myself not to use injectors for the simple reason I want to grow my characters including making bad decisions in skill training. It makes the characters feel more “alive” to me in the role playing part of the game.

I don’t like the fact CCP introduced skill injectors to the game even if i do understand the reasons why. In my opinion time spend on skill training is an essential part for full immersion into the game. To me EVE is not a game suited for immediate gratification but a journey which takes many months–>years and every day of that journey is an adventure in itself.