So you just bought CCP

I read your edit. My reply stands as it is.

You basically called EVE ‘cheap thrills’ while in the same post claiming that those thrills are few and far between, while making absolutely zero remarks about the value of what you’re putting on the line for those ‘thrills’. Then, you go and provide two perfect examples of exactly what a cheap thrill is, free to play MOBAs and battle royales, and try to pass them off as meaningful PVP games.

They’re not. Black Desert has more meaningful PVP than all of those games combined, and EVE has even more than that. But even if it didn’t, quality > quantity. No one has a reputation in any of those games. No one writes articles about the heists of battle royale players, and no one writes articles about the assassinations of MOBA players.