A simple and straight-forward suggestion:
If your corporation/alliance has Sovereignty - no structures can be deployed or owned in high-sec.
All existing structures become abandoned after 30 days or revert to NPC control.
A simple and straight-forward suggestion:
If your corporation/alliance has Sovereignty - no structures can be deployed or owned in high-sec.
All existing structures become abandoned after 30 days or revert to NPC control.
Alright, I’ll just put them all in yet another alt corp.
Did you even pause to think this one through?
If it’s part of the alliance - that doesn’t circumvent it.
But why
Sure it does. That’s what holding corps are for…
my dude, this is so trivial to circumvent, you should be embarrassed to have even mentioned it.
Aside from being completely ineffective at it’s intended purpose because it’s trivially easy to circumvent this limitation with holding corporations, your suggestion also accomplishes that high sec players get another reason to not venture outside high sec.
Imagine that some of your high sec corp’s members expand their gameplay to null, do the unthinkable and take sovereignty from some backwater region and thereby destroy all your high sec structures.
Oops.
Thats the exact problem. “Holding Corps” were the wet dreams of large groups, being able to keep 100% control over a huge network of stations with their own alts while unloading all the work of maintaining and refueling them to their “renters” and “members”.
The rights to take over weaponry, refuel and refit (basically any other right than docking and using the services) needs to be taken away from the Access List options and be strictly limited to the owning corporation, to make sure the burden of maintenance is always on the owner. (that is also basically the reason why POCOs should need fuel, even if just a bit).
It shouldn’t be possible for a CEO or small ring of leadership people to bascially “own” hundreds or thousands of structures that other people need to maintain, but can be taken away from them at any moment. EVE suffers from too much power concentrated in too few hands already.
You realize we did this well before access lists right? It wasn’t hard it was just more tedious
People use holding corps because they dont want characters involved with wardecs. You are basically forcing them to deal with wardecs with this suggestion.
I do agree that most of the game design incentivizes power centralization
Don’t say “just”. Anything “more tedious” creates a natural barrier of how much control a single person/clique can exert, because they can only supply (aka be present and do the refuels) so many structures at so many locations. Any human being has only so much time to “do things”. And any “workaround” they find should be closed immediately. If you want a 100% control over something, you should need to do 100% of the maintenance.
All those POCO empires or holding-corp concepts where a small circle of people can basically hold the assets of thousands hostage by being able to remove all access with the snip of a finger should not be possible.
Sure and that is absolutely no problem. Wardecs are part of the game and if you don’t want to become a target of them, you can simply opt out. What you say is that people have found a workaround to be able to use all structure benefits in highsec while not wanting the consequences (aka being wardeccable). Thats bad.
No its not
Yes it is, because workarounds for intended gameplay are bad by default.
No its not
But it wasn’t any fewer people than now. The same ones fueling structures then fuel them now. Only difference is fewer shell corps
The “empires” were a lot smaller back then or at least internally more diversified. Well, I guess you are right somehow, the Holding Empires would proably made it mandatory for the renters to put “fueling alts” into the holding corp and the burden is again on them while the power remains in the hand of the Holding CEO a 100%.
Not sure how to adress it right now, but I am deeply convinced that all types of “renting” via Holding Corps controlled by a few powerbloc alts is bad for the game. It gives them too much power and forces smaller groups into the established blocks if they want to have any chance to grow beyond insignificance.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. Thanks to infinite free Alpha accounts, the ability to make an infinite number of corps, infinite free e-mail addresses for multiple accounts, and VPN’s, there is no way they could ever put a stop to it.
That means we need to ban all a Alts and make EVE a 1-char roleplay Game :).
What did the poor Frostpacker do to you?!
This is exactly how it worked. I used to have to fuel a bunch of them back before we had fuel blocks to make it easy.
But this isn’t really the problem, you want to destabilize null sec. Make it harder to maintain the massive stockpiles of assets that make it almost impossible for new unaffiliated groups to break in? Remove asset safety.