[Split Topic] - Ganking

How exciting. Can I have all your stuff when you finally get bored ****less and leave ?

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What system?

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Why would I get bored of doing PvP? I thought you hated PvE.

You are doing PvB, Player v Beacon.

Whether you are AFK or just not paying much attention because you are distracted by other things doesn’t matter. That’s your choice.

What does matter, is when someone makes that choice, dies and then comes to the forum to whinge that the game should be changed because the other players are evil.

It’s even worse when white knights agree that the game should be changed against the players actively playing and in favour or those that are not paying attention.

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The thing is…I am Evil

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Sometimes. I do get a decent fight from time to time. I tried going to some of the busier systems but you just get swarmed by fleets.

@Scipio_Artelius
That’s not what’s happening. People are coming to the forum to give their views on ganking. Gankers are then claiming without any evidence that anyone ganked is AFK then going on some rant abut how terrible it is to be AFK.

My point is that most of the game is built to encourage AFK play. It’s how they get people to multibox because it would be impossible to run multiple accounts if every one of them required 100% unblinking attention. My examples were PvP mechanics were you can stay AFK 4-5 times longer than you can when mining for example.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to accuse people of being AFK without evidence and to then use that as a justification to treat their opinions as invalid. I’ve never been ganked while AFK even by the stretched definition being used here. I still think ganking harms the game.

Am I?

Do you really know my motivations?

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It happens all the time.

It’s certainly reasonable for those that gank to base their views on their experience where it’s obvious that mining is so boring a very large number of people doing it in highsec are paying very little attention to the client.

Certainly no less reasonable than those that come here and claim gankers are griefers and anti-socials, just for taking part in a valid playstyle within the rules that the game allows.

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Where are these posts happening “all the time” where people who were verifiably AFK are whining about getting ganked.

Spend some time here in the forum (or on your main or whatever). The posts present themselves. It’s been part of the continuous whining for more than a decade.

You even above indicate how the game encourages low input and distraction by other things such as Netflix (there’s a reason that’s a stereotype of miners in particular), so if you can’t see how AFK is a mining playstyle, then go gank some miners. You’ll see for yourself soon enough.

You don’t speak the Queen’s mate?

Actually they can do less. It has already been admitted that ganking isn’t a problem and the only peeps getting killed are AFK/bad at the game.

It’s also been admitted that people calling for ganking nerfs can’t handle the game they chose to play :smiley:

Do you got any more questions or

Yennoe I’m still waiting on Grampy to prove being AFK is a core tenet by posting a pic of where it says on the EVE box.

I been waiting a while :frowning:

My guy, their pod floated in space long after I waited out my timer, came back in a rubbish bin bird and looted both mine and his wreck :smiley:

But I mean maybe he wasn’t AFK, maybe he was just sobbing unceasingly at the loss of his venture?

Remember tho Nat is a nub and def not an alt :smiley:

That somehow remembers how war decs used to be. But wasn’t playing then :smiley: Allegedly. :smiley:

I don’t dispute that there are people on the forum that dislike ganking. What I dispute is your claim that they get ganked while AFK then come here and “whinge” is any sizable numbers.

I have mined, and it was boring to me, but it was also not something that you could do AFK for long. The AFK periods are way longer in things like faction warfare. You seem to just assume that anyone ganked while mining is AFK, when it seems most of the time they are active, they just don’t know they can be ganked and don’t react in time. That’s what happens when experienced players hunt new players.

Dispute away. I don’t care. I know its true whether you are offended by that notion or not.

It doesn’t have to be long. Just don’t whinge and whine if you (or anyone) dies while not paying attention.

No one deserves sympathy for not actively playing the game and dying.

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I’m not offended, it’s just not evidenced in any way. Like if you want to claim the Earth is flat you are welcome to do so but don’t expect to be taken seriously. In this case I see no evidence of any sizable number of players coming here to complain after being ganked while AFK. I see people coming here with opinions and being screamed at by gankers and told they are alts, or AFK players, or carebears and told to leave the game.

To you perhaps and that’s fine. Go do some ganking and you can see for yourself. You have the ability as we all do, to grab the evidence, but there’s no convincing people of others experience.

I know it is true from my own experience.

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The evidence should be on the forum. You said they die AFK then come here to whinge, so there should be plenty of posts from people who have been ganked while AFK. Where are they?

Go look for them. Go back through threads on this forum and the old over the last decade.

I’m not here to spoon feed people information. I do too much of that as it is.

And even better then that, go do some ganking yourself.

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I’ve looked back through a lot of the recent ones, can’t see any that fit your description. Guess that’s what happens when you make stuff up.

Keep looking then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯