Suggestion: Remove Highsec from EVE Online

In EVE Online we have distinct sections of space, and the most problematic section of space is currently called “highsec” by the majority, if not all players.

I believe this helps to build a false sense of security, oftentimes leading to impotent rage posts both in-game and out. This illusion helps to build the idea that this is not a pvp-centric game.

My suggestion is to remove the very wording “highsec” from existence within eve online. Cut it out of all language, completely. There is Empire space, and there is non-empire space. There is no safe space.

This also touches upon this very odd concept I have seen thrown about for several years, especially here on the forums. “Nonconsentual pvp”. This phrase is complete trash.

You consent when you choose to make an account and agree to the TOS and EULA, then make a character and at some point undock. While this is a sandbox game, there is nothing to stop the other children from flinging sand.

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It’s not called “safe space” because it’s not completely safe. It’s called “high security“ because the security is high compared to other parts of space. I don’t see the problem.

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the security isnt high though. concord doesnt protect, it avenges. Meaning, you’re no safer than being in a wormhole, for example.

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Concord doesn’t but gate and station guns do. Faction police is also there to respond to anyone with bad standing before they do anything. I’d call that protection.

Edit: Also, alpha characters are limited to “green” safety setting. That’s not a concern in nullsec.

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High Sec was a player given name. CCP never came up with it.

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I like the term “high-sec”, it makes me feel safe, even if I know I’m not. Its like “discount” and “sales”. I know I won’t be spending a penny less but I can come home under the illusion that I saved money, even if I didn’t. Makes me feel all warm inside :blush:

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Of course you are safer in highsec than in a wormhole. In the wormhole you can lose your ship and pod as well as all your belongings if you have them in structures there and you have to put much more effort into informational awareness. Same for 0.0. Thats why after their active time the vets often turn to highsec to have a more easy late life in EVE, because they can not afford to care 24/7 for their stuff anymore due to change in personal life and such.

I don’t get it why you have to force your liking on everyone else and not have everyone decide for themselves where to live. Some live in two regions at once for various reasons. Like on the border of lowsec and null or on the border of lowsec and highsec.

And if your argument is for newbies…you heard they get their own region now to train and be prepared for the harsh lifge, right?

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Considering that CCP did not come up with the terminology…good luck.

Player called High Sec for the concord, faction police, gate and station guns, and the difference in concord response times…

Losec is called that for the lack of of or severe lower effectiveness of the above reasons…

Both Losec and Highsec are Empire Space.

Nullsec…is just that…no security at all provided by npcs.

but sure, OP you are allowed to beat your head against that brick wall…as much as Sweet Baby Inc does

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This is not a plea to CCP, this is to my fellow eve players.

Some terminology can be changed if enough effort and enough people are willing to do it. We are building unrealistic expectations for incoming players. Many current and former players were also influenced by this terminology as they expected something that is not part of the game design.

so concord is part of what makes empire space unsafe?

Nope. Concord makes empire space safe. Concord doesn’t make it unsafe. Concord makes it safe.

War Decs make it unsafe, but that was done by design. Wardecs make it unsafe. Concord makes it safe.

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Isn’t it concord that gives permission to declare war?

I’m not going to personify Concord. It’s a mechanic. It’s not real people and I won’t personify them. Does it bother you that I won’t personify it?

not at all!

I am simply trying to understand the situation in its entirety.

So I suppose the best way for me to consider the sec part of “highsec” to be more like mall security, correct? They do not actually make it safer, but their presence alone is the deterence to some aggression.

No. It’s not comparable to real life. That would involve personifying it.

Concord is a mechanic. War Dec is a mechanic. The War Dec Mechanic overrides the Concord Mechanic.

It’s that simple.

So then it sounds like you don’t have any problems with “wardec” mechanics, correct?

I never said or implied that. It’s possible to like one mechanic, but dislike another. It’s easy.

concord is part of the mechanic though. “wardec” doesnt appear to override the concord mechanic, since concord is part of the foundation of the “wardec” mechanic.

So I am a little bit confused. You feel perfectly safe in empire space and you know how to evade “ganks” but also take issue with “wardec” mechanics?

cute edit. I am trying to have a conductive conversation though.

I never said I feel perfectly safe. I said I feel safe. Reading comprehension. Practice it.