I’m just putting forward what I think is useful for the game. I’m new here, and I’m not going to read the Library of Congress to suggest something. If a suggestion is unacceptable, it’s easier to explain to me why, at least in a few words.
thats CCP’s rule, not mine.. CCP and CSM’s would rather ideas that have been mentioned before, not be mentioned again.. like ganking, anti cloaky etc.. those tend to get thrown into threadnaughts because there’s no use really going round and round, and all its gonna end up doing is causing people to break the rules on the forums.
maybe hearing from a former CSM will help you understand this
@Mike_Azariah im sorry
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That’s not quite true. It’s not as bad of a suggestion as I’ve seen in other games. You just wait for the NPC ship to bring you the item. By the way, you might get attacked at that point. Or, let’s say a trade hub has an owner who delivers the item to you.
I don’t see anything wrong with this, as it’s a working moment.
you’re circlejerking everyone here… we are trying to explain why this is not a good idea, and it would effectively end the game, but yet you won’t listen to reason. Your OP is not why players are leaving the game. Ganking is not the reason the game is the state its in.. IF it was, CCP would have done something a long time ago..
You keep bringing up ethics and morals of Real Life.. this is a game of pixels.. this has nothing to do with how someone acts or feels in real life.
YOu need to go outside and touch some grass and maybe take a week off of playing eve and realize you are trying to bring too much real life and too much emotion to a video game..
Avoid abbreviations if possible, as I don’t know this language very well. OP? Hmm…, over power? There is nothing wrong with bringing more life to the game. If you know the reason why the game is degrading, then tell me. If it is not a secret, of course. On the contrary, I see that the developers are doing something, trying to attract new players. Personally, I am annoyed by ganking and lags in Jita. The rest seems to be fine.
All easy fixable. Stay away from ganks and out of Jita.
This is how it is done:
Collect intel of where ganks happen and by whom and avoid these systems or scout them before entering with the identified organizations marked in your contacts list:
https://zkillboard.com/
There are other tradehubs besides Jita:
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Trade_hubs
Some items are even sold cheaper or bought for higher prices elsewhere.
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It’s not as easy to do as it is to talk about. You have to literally surround yourself with information. You have to have the scan window open, the bookmarks window, local chat where possible. But that’s not what I’m talking about. You have an expensive ship that you’re afraid of losing. Simply because Jita is in an unhealthy situation. A lot of players are right next to the hub. The more players in the system, the worse the game works, up to the slow-motion mode. While your overview panel is loading, you are already killed. Who needs such a situation in the game and why? This is a rhetorical question.
What do gaming skills have to do with it when the game itself is killing you? And you have to pay this price regularly. And someone takes your property and feels like the king of the game.
No ■■■■ sherlock? You just figured out how to get good, grats! Actually have the scan window open AND DO SCAN, have the bookmarks window open AND USE BOOKMARKS, have the local chat open AND USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.
And now comes the blast: Black magic stuff like that (and more) have all been written down in guides for newbros over the last years or even decades. Every good corp will teach them. There are videos with tips and tricks that show them. All of that can be learned on day one or at worst after the first loss of a ship that very obviously shows the pilot that he has room for improvement in his piloting skills.
So please don’t repeat over and over how “unfair” the situation is between veterans and beginners, because even a beginner after a few days can avoid to be ganked with a 99.9% success rate if he sticks to some simple rules.
Then chose another, cheaper one. What you experience is pixel fear. Get rid of it. If a Battleship is too expensive for you and you don’t want to lose it, fly a Cruiser. If that is too expensive for you and you don’t want to lose it, fly a Frigate. It’s really that easy, nobody forces you to fly ships you can’t easily replace.
Yeah so ■■■■’n what? Use an Instadock/Instawarp bookmark and you are safe. I haven’t lost a single ship in Jita for decades. DECADES. Pirates hate this trick.
Having time-dilation mode in Jita is rare and you get a clear indicator when it happens. And if so, it happens for all players. Just don’t undock if that is the case, it is - unfortunately - the price to pay for having somehundred or even thousands of players interacting with each other in realtime. No other game does provide this and sometimes there are simply hardware/software limitations we have to accept. Stop whining, adapt. As others have pointed out: You can easily avoid Jita. Just be somewhere else if it’s too crowded for you there, problem solved. The game has thousands over thousands of star systems, not being in Jita is a great start of a journey to have a fun time.
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Apparently, you have a superb, state-of-the-art gaming computer and incredibly fast internet. That’s why you never have lags in the game. And that’s why you think it’s okay to lecture me from your perch. I’m not interested in your lectures, I know all that. I just don’t need people to be crammed into Jita like sardines. And I don’t have any lags in Amarr. But the prices are different there, and often the goods you need are not there, since this trade hub is poorly developed. That’s what I’m talking about here.
I see three ways out of this situation. Way out one. If you think it’s possible that players are killed on the dock - undocking in Jita, you make it so that players don’t have any problems with lags there. Not selected players, but everyone. Like in some abandoned system. Way out two. There are no pirates in Jita, you can’t kill there. Everything is simple here, lags don’t matter. Way out three. You compensate me for any ship I lose in Jita. That is, I do not write to support, proving that I had lags. They simply compensate me. Option four. Everything remains as is, and players gradually leave the game. This is the most likely outcome.
You might be leaving, but players will surely not. It is pretty stable.
I gave you a few options above. There is plenty more, but my fingers hurt already and it makes no sense to write them down to only have them refused because, well, i really don’t know.
At least if i got hurt by touching the hot pan, i either learn from it don’t repeat it or i will think up and try another approach.
Finally EVE is not for everyone. And doesn’t have to be.
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Yeah that one is very obvious. You post walls-of-text full of you-problems that other people have solved long ago. And instead of accepting personal responsibility for your progress, you are externalizing this responsibility and demand “changes” of which you either don’t understand the consequences (in case you are naive) or you do understand them and want them for personal gain (in case you are just selfish).
And that is why you won’t get any support here. People with a lot more experience and understanding simply see through this lousy attempt to blame others for your own failure. But keep going, make a fool of yourself. The topic is #231 in the last years all made by lazy entitled noobs or fake-alts of bitter lowbobs. At this point, the only reason why you get any replies is because it’s actualy entertaining, because most of the users already know how it will end: You will disappear after a few weeks, the topic will get locked or disappear as well and a shortly after a fresh Paul Keres the twentyseventh with a new name wil appear and repeat the whole nonsense. And then we laugh and go for the next round to ‘lecture’ him until he decides if he wants to learn or to disappear as well.
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Ammar Pd cults. Feel sorry for the Minmantar Min*rs.
No one is lecturing you here. We are just arguing because it’s fun. We don’t really listen much to each other in this forum just like Rap Battle 
Maybe, that’s how it will be. And it’s even more likely, that it will be. But does that mean, the topic wasn’t worth a damn? The only reason, I get responses here, is because I raised a real problem. It should be noted, that in your post you chose not to address the topic of lags. But nevertheless, it exists. Moreover, it is possible, that the lags are created artificially by a group of players, who want to make money on this. It is possible, that you are one of them. You tell me: do not be afraid to lose pixels, keep playing. I want to continue making easy money from newbies, instead of doing something really worthwhile. Just fix this problem and let’s play comfortably for a long time. If you can’t pirate in Jita, do it in lowsec. Create several equally important trading hubs, so you don’t have to drag yourself across the entire map to sell your goods profitably. There’s nothing interesting in wasting your game time on this nonsense.
We can develop this topic further. I don’t want to feed my paranoia, but perhaps there is a lobby of rude guys on the forum, who know perfectly well, that the problem exists, but shut the mouths of newbies so, that everything remains the way they want. So that they with their fast computers can continue to farm newbies in Jita with impunity.
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Then don’t. Not giving in to paranoia and sticking to provable facts is a good step towards a reasonable approach to any problem.
Or, my theory: Anyone else has left and/or stopped discussing with these entitled noobs/alts, because it’s simply tiring and completely in vain. The only ones remaining are those who are either stubborn or find fun in pointing out the naivity and foolishness. Sounds a lot more probable to me than some kind of conspiracy of people who have literally nothing to do with each other ingame.
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Teleportation is not useful to the game.
This… this is where you went wrong. Don’t fly ships you can’t afford to lose. That’s the biggest rule in Eve Online. This has been the biggest rule in Eve online for twenty years. If you can’t afford to lose it, you can’t afford to fly it.
If you need to go to Jita, don’t take the expensive ship.
I do have an amazing computer, but that’s not relevant. No one is forcing you to play Eve and it shouldn’t be changed because of a player’s computing limitations.
You don’t need people to be crammed into Jita, but you don’t get to dictate that. You’re not that important to this game. If 2,000 players want to cram into Jita, then well- one player not liking it means absolutely nothing.
Jita has great prices because everyone is crammed in there. You’re not ready for those good prices. You’re too afraid of war. Fly in shuttles that cost nothing and pick up parts or use other hubs until you have enough money and experience to navigate Jita’s hazards.
And if your computer is really so bad that you can’t handle it, well… that’s not an Eve Online problem. That’s a YOU problem. Work at getting a better system using the very knowledgeable people here on these forums for the best parts and prices or accept that you’re at a disadvantage. Your computer is no one’s problem but your own.