Suicide in highsec, senseless and merciless

There is your mistake. You signed up for the wrong game. Thank me later.

No, you don’t have to go through each one. You can run a multibox software that duplicates your actions. It’s not allowed, but that doesn’t mean you can’t do it. You simply have to not get caught- which is pretty easy as bots and automated multibox software are still being used all over Eve Online. I recently went through a gate and 3 ships instantly targeted me the second my ship decloaked. Clearly they were using bots, but if you ask them, they’ll say, “Oh no- our reflexes are that fast. In fact, we were all feeling slow that day LOL!” Fortunately, all I lost was a corvette.

You are wrong, I do not have such a problem. You underestimate me. It is in this game that you can cause real trouble to a player by destroying his property. I already mentioned here a WOW player who invested a lot of real money in the game and then was betrayed and robbed. It is you who turn a blind eye to the actions of the “good guys”, to what they are in reality. But I am not blaming anyone, I am simply talking about the imbalance of pvp in the game. I criticize the principle of pvp on a bet. Only in this game are newcomers subject to real discrimination. Few are ready to go through this and learn to exist in an unfriendly world. The hardcore of the game can be organized differently. What is most outrageous is the enrichment of experienced players at the expense of newcomers. There is some cynicism in this.

There have been merc groups that stay with a null sec alliance since I can remember, and I played the first 10 years. I’m not sure exactly when mercs stopped being paid for war decs in hi sec, but I’m sure there is a change in the game where it happened. What I do know, if a corp is going to pay the war dec fee and x amount on top of it… a merc corp is getting a win out of it, whether they just camp an area of get some actual action out of it. AND THAT is not going happen with the current way it’s setup. No matter your view on it… having a player corp and being safe from war decs makes no sense.

I signed up for this game in 2011. I was much younger then, and my nerves were like ropes. I really enjoyed the game back then. Now I just can’t bring myself to play the game, so I’m sitting here and talking about its shortcomings :-).

Sounds like it’s time to find a different game then?

People change, preferences change, and as you say, nerves change.

As an example, my 2011 self enjoyed matches of League of Legends.

Nowadays I still like the idea of that game but rarely can find the time to play 45 minutes without the possibility of getting disturbed, so I stopped playing that game years ago.

Luckily there are many other fun games to play and I’ve had fun in a dozen other games.

I much prefer solo games with a pause button nowadays, which makes it easier to stop when a kid needs attention.

And while EVE doesn’t have a real pause button you can at least warp to a safe, dock or cloak up most of the time, which is an easier break than losing a match of LoL and getting reported for leaving the team.

Lives change.

Why not find a new game that suits your current tastes instead of trying to change the idea of an entire game just for you?

I don’t know what you are smoking, but it must be some good ■■■■.

There’s a difference between scamming an account in World of Warcraft (which is illegal) and destroying a ship in Eve (which is encouraged because this game is PvP based). It may be advisable for you to go back to World of Warcraft or play No Man’s Sky or Star Trek Online. Those games have no PvP.

This is Eve Online and it has been this way for over 20 years.

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it is the 2nd or 3rd time he has mentioned this guy…

Some dude some years back, spent hundreds or thousandsd of $ in EvE for a Navy Raven, all purple and green mods…and this was back b4 alphas were even a thought…

The guy used on his 1st decent lv4 mission he got when ablke to run them, and was immediately ganked in mission by those who sold those mods…

The guy spazzdd, saying how in WoW purple was the best gear and he should never been defeated by the gankers…and also he should never have been allowed to be ganked…

When he started claiming to be some lawyer out of italy and threatened to sue CCP over his finicial loss, CCP perma banned his arse.

Real life isn’t balanced either. This game has never been balanced nor does it need balance. This will never be World of Warcraft. This game would have to get way worse to be as bad as that game has become.

With your permission, I will stay in this game for a while longer until I come to the conclusion that I can’t play it at all. I like different games, I have a wide range of interests. Including games like poker and chess. I don’t play just one game and then change it to another. I already told you that I don’t ask anyone for advice on what to do and what to play.

I too usually play multiple games I like.

You don’t need my permission to have fun in EVE, I just hope you stick around because you like the current game, not because of idle hopes that the game will be changed for you.

Have fun!

I’m willing to believe you.

Never. I have never underestimated anyone. It isn’t very smart to do so.

Yes but it isn’t his property. Everything in the game is CCP’s property. The players own nothing.

Maybe he shouldn’t have underestimated someone?

Me?? What did I do now?
In reality, they are simply playing the game. There is nothing wrong about destroying ships in a game where you’re supposed to destroy ships.

It isn’t discrimination, it’s called being new and inexperienced. New players should know that they are at a disadvantage and it’s up to them to try and close the gap and to understand how to survive in a PvP environment.

few but some do. I haven’t been playing that long at all but I know when to stick around an area or when to scram. I know how to read the map and determine where I will go and what I will do based on the info it gives me. A lot of it is common sense.

Why should it be organized differently? Everything seems to be working fine.

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Formally, this is a game about destroying ships. In fact, it is a miniature model of human society, with all its problems. Destroying ships can be different. You can destroy a newbie’s corvette, or you can destroy an entire fleet of gankers on Praxis. I think you will not argue that these are very different things in meaning. Formally, everything in the game belongs to CCP. In fact, players own resources for their comfortable game. The more such resources, the more pleasant it is to play. And CCP only keeps the players’ property safe. For example, my character was intact after a long pause in the game. So, I claim that each ship kill has its own ethical value. By the way, it is not expressed in LP, as you might think. It is a more complex scale. By the way, it would be interesting to make such a table. But it is a difficult and laborious task. The lowest value is for killing a corpmate and a comrade from an ambush. Then, killing the ship of a player who asks not to touch it. Then, killing the ship of a newbie. And so on, right up to the killing of a Titan in the enemy fleet.

It’s all situational. I don’t see how destroying a corvette is different than destroying a corpmate’s battleship. Maybe the corvette was piloted by a spy or a scout to get rid of before a fleet warped in and maybe I have a bone to pick with that corpmate and had it coming, who knows.
I just don’t see what’s wrong with destroying ships in a ships destroying game.

The fact that one murder is ethical, and another is not. You have heard about the scale of values ​​in ethics, right? I will give you an example from life. You can kill a robber who broke into your house and threatened you. Or you can kill a passerby in an alley, with the purpose of robbery. It would be a big mistake to think that there is no ethics in the game. It is there, since this is a model of human society.

Except that no one has ever been murdered in EVE Online.
You talk about exploding pixels like if it was a real-life crime with a criminal who has no ethics while the victim lays dead in the gutter. Nothing could be further from the truth and to bring in ethics as if New Eden was a real geographical country somewhere on earth with a real society and laws does nothing to address the inequities in the game, which are mainly a question of adaptation, cooperation and smarts.

This is a seeming paradox. The game is played by real people, so it is a model of society. There are no real murders in the game, but unethical actions are still possible. Let’s say there is betrayal and theft. There is bullying, there is insult.

Some actions are allowed by the devs and some are not. Bullying and insults aren’t allowed, blowing up a ship is allowed.