The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out


(Nevyn Auscent) #3653

I’m including freighters and orcas in my increased fittings intent in general. Orcas aren’t too badly off but they could do with more room for things like active tank. Freighters totally could use real fittings and with a gank timer change they wouldn’t need nerfing in any way because the timer increase would be their nerf.
As for pve fitted ships. Yes I am. it doesn’t matter they dont have tackle because once the ganker goes criminal they cant warp anyway. And they already have self defence. So… yes? I’m fine with more pve ships being ganked. Im not suggesting this as a ganking nerf but a sideways shift to a different feel.

(Khan Wrenth) #3654

All that is perfectly fine. I just wanted to make sure that if you were advocating for it, that you were remembering those ships would be effected. :slight_smile:

(Proteus Onzo) #3655

Support, Tank and escape are their means of survival.

(Nevyn Auscent) #3656

Ah yes… the infamous “Just have an escort with you 24/7” argument… It’s been shown that that is some of the most boring gameplay imaginable, everyone hates escort quests in MMO’s and you only have to do those for a short time, not the entire day while the person runs backwards and forwards doing their hauling.
Null hated it so much they cried and cried till they got Jump Freighters to not have to do escort runs any more.
So why do we still expect people to do this in high sec?

(Proteus Onzo) #3657

An escort wont save you from a suicide gank
You dont need an escort if you fly as non-wardeccable Corp.

And said support, not escort, for example to web you into warp away from a bumper.

(Brisc Rubal) #3658

Those were fun roams. Did that a few times with him.

(Proteus Onzo) #3659

Fun as a gimmick once in a blue moon, perhaps.

Zarvoxtoral used to run Interceptor roams in NS, but they where nerfed to no longer have interdiction immunity.

(Litsea Reticulata) #3660


Yet realistically there is often no chance, the maximum EHP for a hauler can be easily calculated and all the gankers have to do is show up with the right number of catalysts or talos to meet that EHP in DPS before the CONCORD response arrives.

Why is it OP for the defender to have a module that will make the attacker commit more than the minimum ?

Why is it okay that gankers can ply their trade with near mathematical certainty?

One of the two aught to give.

(Litsea Reticulata) #3661

Interceptor roams. Lets all go 40 jumps through null to avoid fighting anything that threatens us to blow up one epithal full of PI and some dude AFK in a vexor.

Only half the interceptors were nerfed, its not like Zarvoxtoral needs to train anything new to fly the ones that are still immune.

(Brisc Rubal) #3662

Fun is fun.

(Proteus Onzo) #3663

True. Some people find fun in the strangest activities.

(Brisc Rubal) #3664

Like constantly posting on the forums after getting banned multiple times.

(Nana Skalski) #3665

Ban doesnt mean much on this forum. Anywhere on internet actually. :thinking:

(Proteus Onzo) #3666

Like wrecking a CSM candidacy thread with spam reporting.

People have strange ideas of fun.

(Annah Tsero) #3667

Still waiting

(Proteus Onzo) #3668

I dont fly either one, so I dont fit them at all.

How do you fit your T1 haulers?

(Annah Tsero) #3669

Don’t try to deflect lol

You specifically said

Which isn’t true in a whole lot of situations :joy:
You can’t back up your arguments on this toon either, you get smacked by a CSM and ISD on it too.

Maybe you should

[quote=“Norian_Rever, post:54, topic:110662”]
in 48hrs I will donate the SP I have remaining, and then biomass all characters and terminate all accounts via contact to CCP.

This is it for me.
My time here is over, and I’m never coming back.
[/quote] cough

(Proteus Onzo) #3670

I answered your question.
You asked how I fit Garmur or Caracal.
I dont fly Garmur or Caracal, thus I have never fitted them.

You avoided my question how you fit T1 haulers.

(Annah Tsero) #3671

I don’t fly T1 haulers for pretty obvious reasons :joy:

Anywho, since you can’t prove that everyone always plugs their resist holes, anything further you add will be considered irrelevant to the conversation

(Faylee Freir) #3672

I don’t always plug my resist holes. Polarized Typhoon Fleet Issue FTW!