I see what you mean. Thanks! I can see the comparison of Elite vs EVE (Yes, I do have Elite Dangerous to go and compare). Makes me want to cry when I see that horrid picture.
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haha so salty
I think you got high as a kite before posting thisâŚ
You do you, but sometimes you just need to start deleting drunk posts the next morningâŚ
âGadget never drinks and texts⌠she prefers to drive
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Obviously you must be guilty of doing it, otherwise you wouldnât have posted your snide troll remark towards me.
Obviously you must be guilty of it since you brought it up it in the first place (and very often do) since people who cry the loudest generally are perpetrators themselves, because from their perspective itâs expected.
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Just a re-statement of what others have admitted to doing.
But thank you very much for confirming youâre an alt posterâŚ
Yes⌠this is an alt, very obviously so. I do hope no one is surprised by that? I mean I even stated it in multiple occasions. Your point however was about people using multiple alts to âcreate an echo chamberâ, which is something entirely different.
Looking at your character just screams âaltâ, not been in any corp and no real activity. According to your own logic (and I use that word quite optimistically) you yourself are an alt used to create an echo chamber.
Are people trolling with alts, sure seems like it but itâs far more âPvP sucksâ and âganking is terribleâ trolls (looking at you DC and akio) than the other way round. THOSE pop up all the time made by randoms, but itâs mostly the same people reacting to them.
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The real question is âwhere did OP goâ and did he stick around to play Eve Online.
If not, I guess the people who play Eve Online really do want mixed PvP and PvE in their sandbox.
We can now proceed the conversation to the next stage. Just according to Keikaku.
See you all in another month. Same place, same subject.
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He stopped posting the second he finally realised that the core concept of EVE is competition and, thus, pvp. Not âspaceships in spaceâ as so many people (want to) believe.
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They sure are. I didnât like to play MMOs for the longest time, I wasnât used to multiplayer mechanics and the idea that another player could slay my character in less than 30sec⌠WHO invited him?!? Oh yes, itâs multiplayer 
I tried quite a few MMOs before I decided to download EVE. Many were boring or just not my style. Now I only have two MMOs in my Steam library: EVE Online and Hell Let Loose. Both unforgiving and hard ( for me ) but both everything I like in a game.
Players who complain about PvP should really ask themselves if they want to play a game which getting slayed, shot or exploded is a core part of. I did ask myself that. But I was also tired of playing single-player games ( except for M&B ) and figured my person was perfectly safe from PvP in my chair, only my character would be slayed/shot/blown up.
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All single player games get boring if you play them long enough. Indeed it is arguable that the entire range of Bethesda games such as Fallout and Elder Scrolls are really just variants of the same game. Fallout is just Elder Scrolls in a nuclear wastelandâŚin terms of functionality.
Attempts to add more content, spice up the graphics, etc, donât necessarily work. I bought the recent Black Mesa, an updated version of Half LifeâŚand constantly found myself preferring the original 1998 version. I found the same with Far Cry. The original version is still the best. Even with Elder Scrolls, I think some elements of Oblivion are way better than Skyrim. I hate the dumbed down and rather limited spells selection in Skyrim.
So this âbleeding edgeâ isnât really producing any massively new content. The graphics may be better, but many newer games seem to have lost the âatmosphereâ of older ones. The reason the originals of Half Life, Far Cry, and many other games are all better than later iterations is because developers seem to think that more eye candy makes a better game and have completely forgotten that the thing players really want is that atmosphere and sense of real immersion.
I eagerly await StarfieldâŚbut I already sense its just going to be Skyrim in space.
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Unfortunately you are wasting your time. Any attempt to offer constructive feedback or point out the frankly very obvious flaws in the game mechanics is met with resistance. Even worse, how dare anyone share your view, or add their own, or that just means youâre now botting on the forums.
I agree with more or less everything you said in the OP, albeit I would probably have different solutions. The core diagnosis is correct though, people have less time on their hands generally and more options. Forcing people to be griefed or making it harder to enjoy a game just to adhere to some misguided principles.Most importantly, as you say, all of this would be a bit more tolerable if anything decent was happening development-wise, but like you, I have been shocked at what I saw when I came back from a break. Really poor and clearly a game just treading water.
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Came back ? Your killboard has zero activity in the past 2 years, and even that was just 3 months of killing other Asteros all in the exact same nullsec system.
This is precisely why people should post on their main, as we otherwise have no way of knowing what experience formulates their opinion.
I know this is a little late, and it seems like the OP will not be back, but just in case any new people read this, this part is not true.
If you are mining, and donât want to fight, just run away. It really is that simple.
Watch local for suspicious people and use d-scan to look for the fleets incoming. This will keep you safe 99% of the time. Just fly out when you see them coming. The only problem is it is hard to multibox three or more pilots and watch a movie with your spouse while doing this.
If you get caught on grid in high sec, you were not paying enough attention. New bros just need to learn to watch local and d-scan for incoming threats and they will be safe 99% of the time.
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EVE wouldnt be EVE without the mixture of pvp/pve.
I think a different version of eve, similar to STO would be fun and unique, but not at the expense of changing the EVE we currently have. Could CCP âfixâ eve, sure, but we dont know what is going on in their fried minds
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You and a few others keep posting this nonsense, but it remains nonsense no matter how many times you repeat âthe big lieâ.
EVE is a sandbox and the forum is equally free-form. People can post whatever they want from whatever account they want, within the rules.
EVE is essentially a giant economy and space travel game with a smaller focus on PvP. PvP is a minority activity within EVE, making up less than 20% of all activity. The spineless âhigh-sec PvPâ variant you engage in is a fraction of that fraction. Basically itâs only there to amuse the folks who enjoy punching down on targets that effectively canât fight back.
Thatâs a valid playstyle in EVE, as a sandbox, but itâs hardly the be-all and end-all measuring stick of whether someone is âexperiencingâ EVE or not.
âYour posts arenât valid without a killboardâ and/or âonly a killboard can be a valid mainâ are the weasel-words for dogmatic censorship. Itâs admitting youâre too feeble to think on your own, so you can only accept opinions from those who already agree with you or at least work from a similar mindset.
EVE is a sandbox, with a variety of valid playstyles. And the EVE forums represent a variety of opinions. From all playstyles.
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The other thing is that there are huge asteroid belts such as those in 0.6 system AzerakishâŚ700km acrossâŚwhere anyone randomly warping in is going to be several hundred km away and the system is largely empty most of the time anyway.
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Well of course someone who has ONE killboard record 6 years ago is going to think itâs nonsense ! Iâm not interested in the opinion of anyone whoâs killboard indicates they have seldom, if ever, actually undocked.
When someone points out a flaw in the criticism, and the OP responds with insults - thatâs not very constructive is it?
EvE has plenty of flaws. It also has plenty of things it does right to fill its niche.
As has been repeated above, many of the âsolutionsâ offered have been discussed before, and the unintended (or maybe intendedâŚ) consequenses of these âsolutionsâ have also been discovered and discussed.
By all means offer ideas, criticism, and comment, but players returning from a 10 year hiatus really should catch up on whatâs happened and WHY since they cloaked up. Or at the very least learn how to argue well and not fall into insultsâŚ
âGadget welcomes useful discorse
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@Altara_Zemara makes a good point I forgot. If you are frequently running from gankalious looking people, moving away from trade hubs and crowed systems to systems that are mostly empty will allow you to relax and watch Net flicks more while you mine.
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