The new EVE Online launcher Beta

Is it possible to have a easy way to close all opened clients?

info	2023-07-13T19:18:09	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	loglite	app	Connected to EVE LogLite
info	2023-07-13T19:18:15	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	authentication	app	Generated login URL with state 'zev0l7s62M2C1o6ZP2f2gasP5FcH0SQ6J-lgB-xPzQg' for 'tranquility' using clientID 'eveLauncherTQ'
info	2023-07-13T19:18:15	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	authentication-handler	app	Creating login window using URI https://login.eveonline.com/account/logoff?lang=en&ReturnUrl=%2Faccount%2Flogon%3FReturnUrl%3D%252Fv2%252Foauth%252Fauthorize%253Fresponse_type%253Dcode%2526client_id%253DeveLauncherTQ%2526scope%253DeveClientLogin%252Bcisservice.customerRead.v1%252Bcisservice.customerWrite.v1%252Bcisservice.userProfileBasic.v1%252Bvgs.transactionRead.v1%252Bvgs.marketAccess.v1%2526redirect_uri%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Flogin.eveonline.com%25252Flauncher%25253Fclient_id%25253DeveLauncherTQ%2526state%253Dzev0l7s62M2C1o6ZP2f2gasP5FcH0SQ6J-lgB-xPzQg%2526code_challenge_method%253DS256%2526code_challenge%253D6ks6CBqGG8CWDqhpx_-D68xbQ3xFpqJwuTuY4kxVjcU
info	2023-07-13T19:18:16	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	elg-events	app	Sending event eve_launcher.electron.authentication.LoginWindowOpened
info	2023-07-13T19:18:18	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	ipc-requests	app	Opening external link: https://login.eveonline.com/account/external
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	Second instance [
  'C:\\Users\\Senri\\AppData\\Local\\eve-online\\app-0.3.0\\eve-online.exe',
  '--allow-file-access-from-files',
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  '--bypasscsp-schemes=sentry-ipc',
  '--cors-schemes=sentry-ipc',
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info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	authentication	app	Remote login attempt with state 'zev0l7s62M2C1o6ZP2f2gasP5FcH0SQ6J-lgB-xPzQg'
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	elg-events	app	Sending event eve_launcher.electron.authentication.LoginWindowClosed
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	tray	app	Main window moved to top from second instance { windowId: 2 }
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	i18next	app	Changed language en
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	Startup arguments [
  'eveonline://callback/?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&code=iFw18blYDky19Z6h3w_Xng&state=zev0l7s62M2C1o6ZP2f2gasP5FcH0SQ6J-lgB-xPzQg&remember=true'
]
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	EVE Online Launcher is already running. This instance will now be closed.
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	Application quitting. Cleanup needed: true
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	elg-events	app	Sending event eve_launcher.electron.application.LauncherShutdown
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	self-update	app	Checking for a launcher update...
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	preload	app	High DPI scaling enabled by settings
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	preload	app	Forcing device scale factor to 0 by settings
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	app.quit called, but we are still sending ELG events.
info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	AuthenticationMiddleware	app	Successfully restored 0 / 0 users
error	2023-07-13T19:18:23	14628	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	authentication	app	Failed to exchange code for tokens SSO responded with an invalid status code: Forbidden - Forbidden A [InvalidSingleSignOnResponseError]: SSO responded with an invalid status code: Forbidden - Forbidden
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info	2023-07-13T19:18:23	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	self-update	app	Currently running the latest launcher version. Scheduling update check in 5 minutes.
info	2023-07-13T19:18:24	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	ELG stream closed, quitting.
info	2023-07-13T19:18:24	17412	C:\Users\Senri\AppData\Local\eve-online\app-0.3.0\eve-online.exe	DESKTOP-K50PDIP	main	app	Application closed 0
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This is kind of strange but to improve my gameplay I had to close the beta-launcher :confused:
Every 10 seconds or so my game client just froze itself over. After closing the beta-launcher it now works fine.

ping tranquility.servers.eveonline.com shows:

Pinging d638e439e07f413c97200d057e5ebd05.pacloudflare.com [172.65.201.188] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 172.65.201.188: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56
Reply from 172.65.201.188: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 172.65.201.188: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 172.65.201.188: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 172.65.201.188:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 12ms

It isn’t great for sure but also not horrible. My net speedtest shows 60MB/s downstream - seems decent to me :thinking:

What is the beta-launcher doing that every 10 seconds that causes the game client to freeze?
There is no update available for launcher visible so I must bu running the latest version for sure.

That option is available over another omega symbol displayed to the right :slight_smile: Click that greyish omega symbol and it’s there.

Edit: as of 2023-08-09T19:47:00Z is working as you requested :slight_smile:

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as i posted earlier in this thread, the launcher eats up huge amouts of cpu/gpu, so can’t really left open when you actually want to play

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But isn’t deterministic. Sometimes it is ok to leave it open when no other apps are running like a browser for the forum or discord.

Tried again just now. the launcher draws so much cpu/gpu from my pc that my game client goes to ‘not responding’ every now and then. I have no other thing running, just the launcher and one client.

Yes that Beta launcher requirement is high.

II would like to see the name ‘Players’ online count rename to ‘Capsuleers’.

Reason is you don’t have that number of players online. That is the number of capsuleer accounts online in EVE - not players. Many players multibox 2-4 accounts at the same time. Some have 8, 12, … 36 accounts online at the same time doing gate ganking, mining, structure removal, hypernet and recruiting spam, etc. It’s true. It’s not a secret. The actual number of players online? Streamers and chat guess about half that number are players. Renamed to ‘Capsuleers’ (accounts) is the correct term to use.

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Why do you show New Launcher Beta Experience The Future poster in New Launcher Beta
while there is no such thing on the front page or EVE News :thinking:

Have you mixed up the channel filters?

While less immersive I think it is more inclusive in case of CCP London’s FPS mercs joining us soon™ hopefully :slight_smile:

It’s not horrible, and I’m old and not a big fan of changing things I’m already familiar with. I love the launch straight to a character option though, and I like you that you can drag and resort the accounts. A few suggestions at first glance.

1: One of the accounts is expanded by default and whichever one you’ve selected stays expanded even if you click off of it. I’d like it if they were all collapsed on launch and that it would re-collapse if you click off of (de-select) that account. I think this would be an improved default behavior but if not at least it could be part of a compact mode option.

2: Provide an option for some kind of a more compact mode, like maybe they character portraits only show if you select an account to expand it. Like I’d love it if the account name was shown with the launch account button next to the account name on each account much like the current launcher. This way the same current functionality still exists in the new launcher while providing the new feature to launch to a specific character when you click that account to expand it which shows the character portraits in the drop-down. This would allow more accounts to be displayed at once (nearly all eve players love seeing more rather than less info in the same space) without making the launcher full-screen which brings to my next suggestion.

3: If suggestion 2 didn’t exist then; make the account name slightly more visible.

4: Make the launcher resizable

5: Last and least. It’s not that big of a deal, but one the current launcher I can launch a group in 2 clicks the new launcher requires 3 clicks. Not a big deal, but it’s just a downgrade for functionality in an upgraded launcher.

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When I try to install the new launcher I get an error about it cant run with admin access. I run eve on Linux with proton and the game runs great. But as i understood wine-proton runs all programs with the built-in “steamuser” with an admin role. Wine-proton has better performance so if CCP read this topic, please add exception steamuser and possibility run as admin so that linux users can try the new launcher.
Thanks

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Long as this launcher is not the horrors of Paradox’s launcher, I am content with it. :laughing:

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One thing that I run into, and wish it would get “fixed” is that when I launch the game through the Beta Launcher, it doesn’t minimize or vanish to show the login screen and then the game screen unless I intentionally select that screen through Windows. With the current launcher, the game comes “forward” and the launcher is removed from the screen. The Beta Launcher should do this also, but it’s not.

I do like that I can select my character and/or other accounts through the Beta Launcher, and that is shows more game-related information. The layout seems more intuitive and puts more information at the ready.

Can I install the launcher in another location than C:/AppData yet?

I am very happy with the beta launcher’s appearance and snap. Nice portal update.

I am having difficutlty with the launch settings as I think the development team is addressing a previous post of mine regarding launch settings profiles.

First off the launch settings naming is entering a second entry each time when there are spaces in the name. One with underscores where I put spaces, and another without spaces with the strings condensed down with no space.

Second, I did a basic test of the functionality of the launcher settings where I opened a client with my standard low settings on windowed mode with low settings and no audio (for multiboxing) and tried to make a cinematic single client setting with full maxxed out settings, audio on, all the bells and whistles selected that I care for while single client exploring or PVP.

After doing this I attempted to open the old settings profile to get back to my lower level settings and it did not load, the settings were not saved at all.

Good start but It looks technically disfunctional right now.

Paco

Edit Suggestion: Just put the saving mechanism for all client settings in the in game settings box instead of on the launcher so you can capture your completed settings changes instead of relying on a settings save on client close.

Please offer me my characters as equal values. Don’t make some characters big and some small in the interface. Please don’t make me click on a set of tiny, low res icons to expand into the full set. I’d rather just have text names than this.

Please give me a lot of control over how I present them and order them.
Please allow me to get into the game quickly by not making me wade through a ton of extra images to find my information.

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Things I like:

  • the overall design of the new launcher (rearrangement of news and character list)
  • the additional info on the account / characters will definitely be useful

Things I don’t like:

  • there is no option to start the client w/o having a character logged in instantly: sometimes I am travelling and just want to collect the daily bonus. The machine I’m using then does not have a dedicated GPU and the internet connection is often poor > collecting the daily bonus already in the launcher could be an alternative
  • resizing the window is not possible (someone already mentioned that as well)

Edit: don’t mind the first item, I found the setting: Account Settings>Launch Settings>Launch to character select

Things that might be nice to have

  • closing all opened clients at once (someone already mentioned that as well)
  • automatic minimizing to tray when the client is started (someone already mentioned that as well) > you could make it an optional setting
  • layout themes similar to the game color themes (Photon, Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, ORE, SSoE, Carbon)
  • display of the information from the client login window in the launcher (Skill queue, SP, ISK, unread mails, current ship/station)
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Hi CCP Team Stargate,

I love the new launcher. The launch group OMG <3 <3 <3 <3

Could you add an option to hide the accounts credentials, plex, corporation,… ? (Privacy things to be in the shadow with my Black OPS)
Could you add an option do not expand the account when we click on it ? We know our toons a thumbnail is good enough. :slight_smile:

So far not impressed. I made a launch group and on the first day it worked good. Yeaterday it only opened 2 of my main accounts but I was able to open the thrid manualy. Today the launch group only opened one of my main accounts and I can not open the others at all. It looks good and I know its Beta but this is basic stuff that should have been worked out by now.

Also everytime I open the launcher it says “Not Ready” untill I try to do something like open an account. It dosent matter if it’s 1 minute or 5 minutes untill I click on it it will say “Not Ready” . this also should have been worked out brfore release.

It looks like I will like it once it is finished and atleast workable. The lay out is nice and orginised. Some of the ideas from above look good.