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cat fight 
Well, different people are going to have different philosophies and advice when it comes to this, but here’s my take on the matter.
Losing everything on death was kind of scary for me at first, however, I dealt with it by using risk management. In fact, that’s what, “don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose,” is -it’s risk management. And so, I started by flying things like meta-fit, T1 ewar frigates. Not only were they cheap enough that I didn’t mind losing them, but I also ended up finding them to be very fun and rewarding (such as when I could play the hero by breaking the tackle that had my corpmates pinned down).
Of course, as my isk efficiency increased, the cost of the ships I would fling into dangerous situations also increased. But I always liked to keep things cheap when compared to what others are willing to spend. Of course, more expensive ships can offer an advantages, but so can other things, such as player skill and character skill. And since character skills can’t be lost, I ended up investing proportionally more of my isk into that -which not only allowed me to get my skills to a high level, but also allowed me to fly an extremely large range of ships. This, in turn, gave me versatility and adaptability, and helped to keep the game fresh and fun. Moreover, there is no rule in Eve saying you have to fight fair. So, let others bling out their ships. As far as I’m concerned, that just means more potential profit for me.
Anyway, I’ve got to run, but I want to leave you with John Dree’s The Art of Poor, which was highly influential on me. Oh, and something else to consider is going to play with a nullbloc, as they have some rather generous Ship Replacement Programs.
(Part 1 of a 3 part series)
first fight is in a phantasm , this must be good
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lool i got such a good fight , 4 battle herons , i burned my guns in the last one 
65 million for a nice night totally worth it - 31 left for 1000 solo kills
btw thats the good part of FW , fights come to you meanwhile you are getting some LP isk
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I couldn’t disagree more. Of course, I like winning, but it is not a necessary condition for having fun for me. Moreover, killmails and wallet size are only two ways in which you can measure progress, and many people don’t give a crap about one or both of them.
- Some of the best players in the game lose a lot because they constantly push themselves outside of their comfort zones, and intentionally take on challenging fights. As Kelon Darklight once said, “you will lock yourself into your current level of competency if all you do is punch down.”
- I have plenty of fond memories flying with knuckleheads and feeding ships. I didn’t care about winning or losing, or even growing as a player during these fleets, because I did it to hang out with friends -we enjoyed busting each others balls over our stupid mistakes, making each other laugh with our smack talk, and getting into trouble.
- Many people find close losses to be more enjoyable than one sided victories. For some reason, however, many cultures have begun to paint winning as the most important thing when it comes to playing games or sports (which is especially prevalent at the professional level). And so they cheat, give out bounties for injuring opposing team members, act like sore losers, and prioritize winning over having fun (which is something that I have frequently been guilty of myself).
One of my favorite gaming experiences was playing dominoes with a roommate over a course of 3 or 4 years. He was a formidable opponent that handed me plenty of losses over that time, but I enjoyed his company, and I enjoyed our close games. Of course, I liked winning, but I didn’t mind losing, and the fact that I was playing against a worthy opponent made my victories all the more satisfying.
In fact, did you know that we played so much dominoes that we had a meta? We learned how each other (and all our friends) played, and would adapt our own play in order to use that to our advantage. Naturally, this led to an ever evolving meta as we adapted to each other, and we’d sometimes enter into periods where one of us would start dominating the other. And, not once, not ever ever ever ever, during any of the periods where I was losing did I consider not playing dominoes with him any more. I kept enjoying his company, and I enjoyed the challenge of figuring out what he was doing, and how I could counter it.
And no, I don’t know why I sometimes prioritize winning over fun. Perhaps it’s my pride.
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Sociopath, obviously.
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How unfortunate.
But this quote…
…was one post entirely disconnected from this quote…
… which was a total other post to Fifi_Brin_D_acier and had nothing to do with each other.
Did you put those two quotes together to make the point in your post? I wonder why you had to do that.
Of course not. Winning and Having Fun are two different things.
I don’t give a crap about both. I measure my progress with how much of the game I’m able to experience and to what depth.
Good for them. I’m sure those players can afford to do that.
Yep. I had pretty much the same experience and did post about how I’m going to miss the EVE community.
How about close wins? I like those over one-sided victories.
Of course. Winning feels better than losing so it’s only natural that people gravitate around the idea more than the idea of losing.
Reminds me of the tennis player John McEnroe. 
I had the same experience with a friend of mine when he taught me to play Chess.
It was the same when I played Chess with the friend who taught me.
We all started somewhere, none of us became good at anything before experiencing how bad we were at it first.
It’s all of our pride that make us want to win. As you know at the end of the day pride plays a huge role in our lives, both negatively and positively
Thanks for the video.
And I’m looking into getting in with a Wormhole corporation. Had a little chat with one of their reps last week and I’m holding off until my overall skills improve.
So true. And some people should remember that truth instead of trying to inflate their ego at the expense of others.
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I mean, you don’t even know what time zones are now?
No but I’m sure you are going to tell me 
I can hardly wait 
Me too. I hope he tells me or I don’t know what I’m gonna do 
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This is quite laughable nonsense ageist stereotyping. The sort of thing you get in absurd tabloid stories about kids showing parents how to use a VCR recorder, or old grannies who’ve never used a computer in their life.
The reality is that many older people have been playing computer games for 40 years or more…in many cases longer than younger people have even been alive. The older generation are the ones who invented computer games in the first place…and you go on as if they don’t know how to switch on a computer.
There’s an entire generation who’ve played through very early games like Brick Out…( late 70s )… Empire ( on the Dragon 32…1982 ), Donky Kong, etc…games like Wolfenstein and Doom and Quake…Half life…early team games like Team Fortress…Counterstrike…all the way up to Eve and all the latest MMOs and RPG and FPS games. And you’re gonna teach these people how to suck eggs ?
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This seems to be a response to a completely different post.
Everything DC writes is fan fiction. He hasn’t logged into the game in years.
Just ignore and move on to something more productive.
Mr Epeen 
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Destiny_Corrupted graduated in Nonsense. He convinces himself of something and nothing else matters after that but his opinion. It’s like tunnel vision.
Yet he bashes on me for wanting to enjoy the game as an Alpha before all my assets are exhausted and I no longer log in.
Talk about Hypocrisy.
Just stereotypes of people, not real people. It’s no wonder that DC and his alt Gix are so off on everybody. He doesn’t know how real people actually are, all he knows are stereotypes of people.
…and outright lies like the one Fifi_Brin_D_acier caught him perpetrate on me in this very thread.
I still have the Dragon 32 computer…a collector’s item. Hard to believe entire computer games were once played on something with less memory than required to store the icon for a Scourge missile.
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Wise words.
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