The purpose of the pendulum war

[Mizhara_Del_thul]

Just take the burn for what it is.

[Arrendis]

Sorry, Imperium Navy Adaptive Indumberability Fields active, resists too high!

[Teinyhr]

@Arrendis

Do I have to go back and quote the number of times you specifically brought up Delve to make your incorrect point?

Edit: Just to add to this: Do you think TEST, TRI, NCdot, PH, Culture, etc feel any differently? Do you think they’re eager to put their shipyards into places where they can’t defend themselves?

I used Delve as one example, not the sole example. Now you’re just either playing stupid or willfully misunderstanding me for whatever reason known only to you. I already explained myself, I wont do it again.

[Arrendis]

And again, if you think any of the others would move their shipyards to high/lowsec, you are insane.

[Teinyhr]

@Arrendis

And again, if you think any of the others would move their shipyards to high/lowsec, you are insane.

I’m not talking about any of the other null entities. How many times must I repeat myself? There, you made me explain myself again.

Edit: The whole time I’ve been saying that the same industrial forces that do the work in high-sec would also build capitals there. I’ve not said, not once, to my understanding, that established nullblocs would take to highsec. And I don’t understand where you got this idea.

[Arrendis]

@Teinyhr

I’m not talking about any of the other null entities. How many times must I repeat myself? There, you made me explain myself again.

Edit: The whole time I’ve been saying that the same industrial forces that do the work in high-sec would also build capitals there. I’ve not said, not once, to my understanding, that established nullblocs would take to highsec. And I don’t understand where you got this idea.

So when you said:

@Teinyhr

Oh, I think I did disprove at least your claim that nullsec is an industry powerhouse, which it isn’t, save for a few exceptions, and even those exceptions likely wouldn’t exist if they were allowed to be done in empire space. And that is backed up by fact, not your feelings.

You weren’t talking about nullsec? Talking about industry in nullsec wasn’t talking about nullsec? When you were talking about industrial activity NOT IN EMPIRE you weren’t talking about null?

Which parts of lowsec aren’t Empire, again?

[Teinyhr]

■■■■ this, I’m out. I don’t know how could I explain what I mean any clearer.

[Arrendis]

You could start by not saying one thing, then claiming you’re not talking about that at all.

And the point you tried to later claim you were making? Still just as wrong:

Capital ship production yards already exist in Empire - in low-sec. Thus, if your assertion were correct, those industrialist corps who are all so eager to build caps… could be. They could be building them in production stations just inside the low-sec borders from high-sec. Light a cyno, JF the minerals from Jita right out to their station in Low-sec Lonetrek etc. If they’re not doing it, it’s because they don’t want to be.

Capital production yards outside of Empire aren’t going to move to Empire, because there is no reason to do so. Capitals and supercapitals produced locally get sold to allies. Capitals and supercapitals not sold to allies are being bought by your enemies—so no, they’re not going to move to Empire, where the odds increase that they’re going to be arming people to shoot at them.

[Mizhara_Del_thul]

In addition, she’s ignoring something important: The scale. Yes, all in all highsec does outproduce nullsec, but that’s the wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle industry. It’s a huge number of small scale manufacturers. The leap from manufacturing T1 ships or T2 specialties etc to producing capitals is pretty significant. The investments required for the blueprint collections, materials required and so on are several orders of magnitude higher.

This is not industry that more than a very small amount of industrialists will be breaking into.

[Angelus_Universalis]

@Diana_Kim

@Angelus_Universalis

Totally agree! You get your turf, we get ours (the Gallente)! Even think about stepping foot near my door and you won’t live long!

While there is at least ONE gallente occupant on Caldari Prime or in Black Rise we WILL be fighting you everywhere. Not just in our space.

You brought the war to our doors, now we bring it to yours. We will be fighting in your low security space. We will be fighting in your high security space. We will hunt down every one wearing Federal Uniform and shoot them down like rabid dogs.

There will be no safe place for gallentean occupants to hide. You will be hunted down and eliminated everywhere.

Until there is no Gallente on Caldari Prime!

Oh my gosh!!! That’s wonderful news!!! You see, I have a few thousand trillion soldiers throughout the Universe who are realllly upset that we wanted peace and that puts them out of a job! Problem solved, we can conquer the Caldari State with them! Thanks!

[Teinyhr]

Having had some time to calm down and think, I would like to apologize.

I now realize that I make no sense because my views were based on a highly specific, hypothetical scenario that probably wouldn’t even cross most other people’s minds unless specifically explained to them. I have a bad habit of thinking that everyone else thinks like I do, and I really need to shake that.

[Diana_Kim]

@Angelus_Universalis

Oh my gosh!!! That’s wonderful news!!! You see, I have a few thousand trillion soldiers throughout the Universe who are realllly upset that we wanted peace and that puts them out of a job! Problem solved, we can conquer the Caldari State with them! Thanks!

No, you can’t.
But you can die trying.

[Angelus_Universalis]

@Diana_Kim

@Angelus_Universalis

Oh my gosh!!! That’s wonderful news!!! You see, I have a few thousand trillion soldiers throughout the Universe who are realllly upset that we wanted peace and that puts them out of a job! Problem solved, we can conquer the Caldari State with them! Thanks!

No, you can’t.
But you can die trying.

Well that is the first time you shut up and took it like a proper Caldari. I hope your race has a speedy death that is painless and for the benefit of all.

[Arrendis]

Well, what was the scenario? Don’t leave us hanging like that!

[Diana_Kim]

@Angelus_Universalis

Well that is the first time you shut up and took it like a proper Caldari. I hope your race has a speedy death that is painless and for the benefit of all.

Ah, a typical gallentean racist. Also, your statement was quite dissembling, considering that it is widely known that Gallente torture and starve prisoners of war.

But anyways, now the State has way more powerful army than we had 200 years ago when Gallente tried to bully us for the first time. And way more stronger Navy than all gallente vessels brought together could chew.

All your pityful Federation Navy has not a single chance against Caldari might. We have folded you in YC110 in Luminaire. And your coward fleet barely managed to remove the blockade when you tried to invade our Caldari Prime again. Only because of bloodthirsty capsuleers, who were shooting in all directions, our titan fell. But your fleet was obliterated as well, with just, excuse me, only one or two moroses able to escape? Luckily on the planet our troops completely stomped your occupants down and displayed Caldari superiority once again.

We will win. And we will make you pay for every atrocity and every war crime. The Federation must be destroyed.

[Valerie_Valate]

I liked my theory better.

But then again, I would, wouldn’t I ?

[Anabella_Rella]

I really wish this new IGS had a proper block function so I could filter out the illogical idiots, morons, trolls and genocidal maniacs…er, I mean the usual suspects.

[Diana_Kim]

@Anabella_Rella

I really wish this new IGS had a proper block function so I could filter out the illogical idiots, morons, trolls and genocidal maniacs…er, I mean the usual suspects.

Or you could simply stop posting, then the need of such button for the rest of readers will be significantly diminished.

[Woodrow_Ormand]

I find it quite amusing that you continue to prattle on about prisoners of war and racists when you do the exact same thing. I have seen reports as well as your own admissions on these things. Seriously, you want all gallenteans to die and when someone reciprocates the sentiment to you, you start clutching your pearls like some old woman going thru the bad part of town.

[Mizhara_Del_thul]

So as I claim the 100th post in this abortion of a thread, I should have something pithy and/or dramatic to provide and yet…

… naw, I got nothing. This place is definitely true to form, that much is apparent. I just can’t tell if it’s due to the pathetic moderation efforts, or the inhabitants.