The status of the game…

[Lillith_Sakata]

So, a recurring misconception I see from people is that Plex is bad for CCP, and that removing people who farm ISK to Plex accounts is good for their bottom line.

This simply isn’t true for one very simple reason that these people continuously have a serious logic failure with: every single Plex in the game is only brought into existence with real world money. All people who Plex to play consume those Plex and they cease to exist in the game. So while a Plex consumer didn’t pay IRL money, someone else did.
CCP also doesn’t want people to stop consuming Plex - if no one consumes them, then demand plummets, and Plex creators don’t want to purchase them or sell the ones they have, unless they’re desperate for ISK, bad traders, or both.

What CCP is trying to push is for the insane amounts of wealth that a few players have to be whittled down a bit. Titans are supposed to be actual strategic assets, not ships of the line.

Also, High sec was never supposed to be the land of carebears and unicorn farts, but more like trade havens and training wheels. AFK activities that generate ISK were never healthy or intended; as it encourages low effort botting and RMT. The game should be fun and engaging, no matter what space a player is in, or activity they’re doing.

Lowering ISK payouts in null sec is a long time coming. Frankly I feel that all automatic bounties should be completely removed, and income be solely what you pick up in loot and salvage. Then the values of mods and salvage can increase, to make up for it - right now most people don’t even bother with loot other than faction or officer, the rest is trash that you leave for scavs.

Having trade made a little more difficult also makes it so that the glut in materials that currently exists - which enables things like titans being ships of the line - is lowered by piracy whether PvE or PvP.

In the end, the core concept of EvE had been and always will be conflict. That is why high sec isn’t the same as world of wank towns, where you’re 100% safe. Instead, the conflict is still allowed, but the aggressor is punished - either by loss of a ship, or by loss of ISK from WarDec.

[ISD_Buldath]

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[Jonah_Gravenstein]

@Avatar_Sky-on

You have to be a Pirate or a Ganker, or you are 'not playing the game right”, in fact there should be no other options, because those other roles don’t exist, they are just excuses for losers

That’s way oversimplified, and wrong to boot.

I would argue that the vast majority of PvP biased players would agree that miners, industrialists etc are partaking of valid gameplay.

The people that they object to are those who believe that they should be able to pursue those activities without risk; and that CCP should make it so.

[safira_jomita]

@Gowa_Hyasyoda

they will gladly spend money on is more important to them then 10k+ spoiled players who make them no money at all anymore and complain about literally everything all the time wanting more and more content while they keep running the game into a wall sucking all the fun out of any activity.

Uuuh you know that when they buy Plex CCP gets money too right?

[Cypherous]

@Xross_Khardula

This has absolutely been done to increase revenue by making less innovative players pay for their subscription instead of PLEXing it.

I mean, there is one tiny minor small issue with what you’re saying, CCP actually makes more money from PLEX than they do from the sale of subscriptions, they actually lose income if they force everyone to pay a sub for omega instead of paying with PLEX, so yeah, you need to rethink this

[safira_jomita]

@Cypherous

I mean, there is one tiny minor small issue with what you’re saying, CCP actually makes more money from PLEX than they do from the sale of subscriptions, they actually lose income if they force everyone to pay a sub for omega instead of paying with PLEX, so yeah, you need to rethink this

But they DO earn more if they nerf income to hell, as many ppl are credit card warriors and will just buy Plex to turn into isk

[Nana_Skalski]

@safira_jomita

many ppl are credit card warriors

Its just that they have more money than time they are willing to spend grinding.

[safira_jomita]

@Nana_Skalski

Its just that they have more money than time they are willing to spend grinding.

Yeah no change to my point. If you need to grind 10x more to get the shiny ships y need( PvP included)lot of folks will just buy Plex and turn into isk. how hard is this to realise?

[Solstice_Projekt]

@safira_jomita

how hard is this to realise?

Who doesn’t realise?

There’s no problem with this at all.
It’s been happening ever since PLEX got introduced.

There will always be lots of people not willing to spend money.
They can put the work into it, like they always have.

They might need to diversify, though.

[safira_jomita]

I mean a lot of ppl don’t still, as they keep saying Plex will reduce CCP income.

[Solstice_Projekt]

Aren’t those the same people who complain about CCP reducing their in-game income?

The …
… you know …
… idiots?

[Nana_Skalski]

@safira_jomita

If you need to grind 10x more to get the shiny ships

In a transitional period, or depending what activity you will do in future, we have to remember that everything changes.

If CCP will keep nerfing into infinity, faster than market will react, they will find themselves and players in a strange point gradually, where people will see the pointlessness of whole thing. This thread is only one reaction that can be more common in future.

[Karak_Terrel]

@Xross_Khardula

This has absolutely been done to increase revenue by making less innovative players pay for their subscription instead of PLEXing it. I am sure that when Pearl Abyss acquired CCP the first meeting with the executives was, “CCP you will make this harder to play Omega for free.”

Do you realize that the prices including that of PLEX is set by a player run market, and that CCP has very little influence on how this things are valued.

If they decrease the inflow of ISK by slashing bounties and deflate the money, PLEX prices will drop eventually. If they reduce loot or minerals, supply and demand will correct for the price eventually.

All this is doing is create some obvious opportunities for people who don’t just cry in a corner but act on it to get potentially space rich.

But whatever, keep informing us about those conspiracies, you of all people miraculously uncovered. Itŝ always easier to create a narrative in your head where others are to blame, than to accept that the real issue at hand is your own shortcomings.

[Solstice_Projekt]

Please wait fifty minutes for more Likes.

Why not have a package of 100 Likes for, say, two-fifty?

[Ramona_McCandless]

Is this just more “deflation = Im poorer” claptrap

[Karak_Terrel]

@Solstice_Projekt

Why not have a package of 100 Likes for, say, two-fifty?

And it was at this moment when I realized that sol was actually a giant crustacean from the
paleolithic era.

[Jonah_Gravenstein]

Clash of the Titans (2010) - Giant Scorpions Scene (4/10) | Movieclips

Right phylum, wrong subphylum; but close enough.

[hellokittyonline]

Carebears have cried this game into the dumpster.