Yes, yes, SOE is the only one. Thank you drive thru.
I have no idea who even grinds missions for LP.
That must take forever.
I just see LP as a small bonus payoff at the end of a mission.
But yes I agree with you completely - better LP and better rewards for doing missions IN GENERAL.
Interbus are my favourite. Been doing them for a while now.
yes, nobody is doing that at all. Never was, will never be.
Not on L3s ; not on L4s ; anyhow the maximum 1000 isk/LP available on all stores makes the 12k LP from missions much less interesting than the raw 9M isk from reward+bounty.
- 1000*12000= 12 million.
- You can get reliable 2kisk/lp for some stores even at volume. Which = 24 Million.
- Some stores give even more for niche items.
So uh… LP is the lions share of nearly every mission.
maybe this can help you
In this context, the sarcasm should be obvious once you realize the use of the future to indicate an hyperbole “never was, will never be”. Since nobody can tell the future this is obvious something stupid I said on purpose (AKA sarcasm). Also the emphasis on the “nobody does that at all” which is redundancy in stupidity (I’m not insulting myself, I did it on purpose) : you can’t prove that something does not exist, unless it’s by design.
Another way to detect the sarcasm is that first, with 1k isk/lp this means actually the 12M worth in LP is better than the 9M worth in raw isk ; and then, 1k isk/lp is actually the minimum you can do in HS. Which is what you corrected but you misunderstood it as me being serious while I took all the effort to make it absurd from the first sentence of my post.
I’m very disappointed.
Except a great many people who play EVE fail at basic maths and honestly believe the Isk from missions is the main part.
So regardless of if you were being sarcastic or not, there were no cues that were clear (no matter what you want to bleat about and pretend to be superior, that is honestly what a lot of people would write as a serious statement), and it needed correcting for everyone else reading it.
P.S.
There are also LP stores at times below 1k if you want any goods that move with speed.
Standard implants are the only volume items in some LP stores and they were down to 700/lp at some point last year, I haven’t checked value today.
There is even below that if you want that bad of a isk/lp ratio.
You can even have negative isk/lp. Use them all you want.
And you can tell them they are wrong, they will not care and just want to be right, not understand why they were wrong (cf CODE. monkeys) . It’s a game and people don’t want to use their brain in a game when they already use it at minimum frequency IRL.
People who affirm stupid things don’t care if what they say is wrong. I’ve got my share of people claiming ■■■■■■■■ on these forums, when you show them they are wrong they start insulting you and CCP does not care.
Rather have fun of them with non-aggressive sarcasm, and let them eat their own ■■■■. If they get it, nice of them, otherwise well it was fun.
Sure, it can definitely not mean you have an issue with sarcasm detection.
Both are ■■■■ compared with 80M in tags…
Why do I need good standings with amarr again?
to make missions that give less, but faster ?
30 minutes to run them with my current setup so not bad. I suppose if you can run all the burners then sure.
Although I do wonder what stores he has been looking at… I don’t see 1.5K per lp to buy orders as bad.
I can reach 3k isk/lp on a monthly basis. Actually, I’ve been selling my items at 3k isk/lp for several years. When they are bought, I just build more and sell more. But I don’t farm a lot, it would burn me out. I pay with money for my accounts, even though I can make the isks required per month I just don’t think it’s a sane way to play. Play for fun, not for playing again next month -.-
Burners take 6 min, including warp, request mission from agent, change ship, undock, warp to system then burner gate, take gate, kill burner, loot it, warp back to station, dock, complete mission, refuel, cancel bad missions. It’s so little work I can do two accounts at the same time and never lost a ship because of bad piloting (yeah they still need a bit of piloting).
In raw isk I make circa 100M/h (per account), just in plain reward+bounty. I know people make much more, this is not bragging - just a lower limit on how easy it is to do it.
Then you add the LP. at 3k isk/LP it means ± 300M worth in LP per hour. I rather use a conservative 2k isk/lp to consider the worth , so it’s +200M worth in LP per hour
Then you add the loot. I think over 10h I make around 1B in loot ? Including constant loot (implant from scarlet, zazzmatazz keycard) and faction loot (I just consider them not, because it’s very unreliable). Let’s say it’s 50M/h. When you drop two caldari navy invul (400M IIRC), it makes up for the 7 previous hours without a drop ^^
Again, I’m not bragging, I would make more if I was cherry picking missions, and/or using officer/mutated modules I guess (but I rather invest in industry than in burners fits)
If you want some example you can check on twitch, eg this guy https://www.twitch.tv/hateless_gaming/videos made several stream with budget fit and 3 accounts but I think it’s removed from twitch history(I guess he burnt out ?).
You can also search youtube for burner .
BTW I tried it and when you stream/Make vids you take much more time to the isk/h is reduced by … licks his finger to guess where the wind comes from 25% ?
I always use 1K per lp as conversion, but truth be told I rarely get less than 1.4K/lp, usually it is over 1.6K /lp, and this is when selling to buy orders. I run l4s in ham loki (tengu is ■■■■ for the missions I do anyway - kinetic dmg bonus? sorry, that is not even a tertiary hole of amarr npc…), don’t do burners outside of team burners (I just can’t be arsed to fit/skill into ships to run them) and doing them casually I get 100-120M/h. 200M/h when I run optimally. I wonder how much I could make if I used paladin… or sold through sell orders. And proabbly could multibox a bunch of them at the same time with minimal degradation in performance. I will also admit that for loot value I use jita buy which is not exactly correct - I got scrap metal reprocessing l4 and most things I reprocess or sell at hek for way more than jita buy.
Either way both of us will agree that there are more lp stores than SOE and that 50M/h by running l4s in hs is real understatement.
we agre with that, but must still pretend it’s not possible to do so.
Missions are basically just a brief diversion that makes me do a little work before I can get to the really glorious salvaging payday. Pretty sure that’s how they were always intended.
Salvaging payday?
Lol
Salvage ISK is mathematically superior to all other ISK. Especially LP ISK.
right… so that’s about 2 mil every 5 hours.
2 mil > 0. Boom. You’ve been mathed.
Just trying to keep my comments on your level of understanding.
LP is valued somewhere between 1-2k per single LP. If we are talking highsec missions. You can get 5k-10k l.p. per mission. That maths out to up to 20 million isk value per mission from L.p…
So I think your maths is the one that needs work.