Microsoft is monopolist and can ■■■■ on users
Windows is a proprietary system, just like MacOS, if anything MacOS is even more closed down and hardware limited, you are bound to their release and support cycles.
You also are free to not use their platform.
I know you want better support for linux, and I don’t blame you. However, I don’t think throwing win 7 users under the bus is the best way to get what you want. A lot of people are running on older hardware that doesn’t have windows 10 drivers (and others hate the privacy issues of 10).
Anyway, advocate for better linux support, sure. But lets not throw people under the bus in order to get to where we want to go.
And on a side note, I don’t expect people to be switching over to windows 11 in super high numbers. My guess is market share for 11 will do similarly to Vista, 8 and 8.1, while windows 10 will dominate for quite a while.
And on another side note, I can’t imagine that Mac OS Eve players greatly outnumber Linux players. So why a native mac client, but not a native Linux client? Do apple users spend more money? Or do they figure that linux users are more likely to problem solve, while apple users are more likely to pester support and/or give up?
This is not about getting Linux support, please stop going off topic, this is about realising that W10 is the mininum supported. W7 has been thrown under a bus for years by Microsoft, so has 8 and 8.1. It’s dead.
From your own opening post:
Either you gave the post the wrong title, or conversely can’t stick to your own topic.
This topic is about realising W10 is the mininum supported Windows. Get over it, W7 and W8 is DEAD. Microsoft say so.
Microsoft themselves have never said it is dead. Their official statement from 2020, which you can read btw, is simply that it has reached end of support. Thus no tech support, no new patches, no additions. Very different from dead. Works totally fine.
It also means you cannot depend upon development tools to support it either going forward, and any third party software building upon it to continue to support it either. The lack of support trickles down.
In fact I will make it easier for you. Here is the statement from MS themselves. On their own website. Please read and enjoy.
They know better to use words like ‘dead’ for their own O/S that is still being used.
Good luck with your vintage proprietary platform. Don’t expect future software to run on it well if at all.
I would prefer CCP stop wasting time and effort testing on end of life platforms and focus on testing supported platforms. W7/8/8.1 is now a time hog and dead weight in testing.
Shift testing effort to W11, cut W7/8/8.1 from the test matrix.
People cry about time better spent on game features, well, dump the end of life platforms and you will free up more testing effort for these features.
If you’re on an end of life unsupported platform, go use Eve Anywhere, all you need is a browser.
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
What are you saying, poor people aren’t allowed leisure time? Or that people who can’t justify dropping hundreds of dollars on a modern gaming rig should either rearrange their financial priorities, or not game?
I can’t even. I just don’t even know how to respond to such an unsympathetic way of looking at things.
Oh, this isn’t even to mention that right now is a absolutely terrible time to upgrade video cards or buy a new machine. Yeah, you’re right. ■■■■ it. Let’s drop support for an OS at a time when 10 year old, rebranded graphics cards are being put into new builds, 5 year old graphics cards are selling for a little more than they did at launch, and there are contests that allow people to win the right to purchase a latest gen card at MSRP -let me say that again. The contests prizes are not new cards, but the right to purchase cards at MSRP.
Yeah, perfect timing. I mean, either drink less starbucks, or stop playing Eve. Amirite?
You know, one of the cool things about Eve is that you can run it on a ■■■■■■■ potato via morse code. This not only opens up Eve to people from around the world, but it also helps increase the player base of an otherwise niche game. Yes, CCP should drop support for 7 when it stops being worth the dev time. But I’d much rather leave that decision in their hands, than let you decide.
God damn. I am out of this thread. See you whenever.
W10 upgrade was free, it runs on years old hardware. You cannot get more charitiable than free.
Also please list the hardware you have problems running this free W10 upgrade on.
We get it, you want the devs to abandon a swathe of the player base who cannot or will not upgrade to Windows 10, because you think that will give enough time for other development or testing work to be worth the loss of income derived from those players.
But you don’t have the necessary data to make that call. Only CCP has hard numbers on W7-8.1 usage among the player base, and clearly those numbers remain in favor of continuing W7-8.1 support - otherwise CCP would have already made this call.
So let it go.
Microsoft already abandoned you, but they give you a free gift of an upgrade to W10.
Eve Anywhere, it’s for you perhaps. All you need is a free browser.
W10 was a free upgrade
Browsers are free
It is laughable that you keep claiming this ‘free’ thing. Not all W7-8.1 licenses were eligible for a free upgrade, and EVE Anywhere isn’t a free service (it’s Omega only).
Ahh so you just don’t want to pay. Not sure how Eve can thrive with freeloaders.
Care to show me which licenses didn’t get the free upgrade?